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Re: Brutal life working in Amazon warehouse

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You know what would be awesome? If tech was used to not just "revolutionize" how consumers get their products but also how employees were treated at these companies. So often it seems lately that tech giants are built in a super old fashioned way: on the backs of cheap labor.

Automation means fewer total employee s, so fewer abused employees

Re: Brutal life working in Amazon warehouse

#22

You know what would be awesome? If tech was used to not just "revolutionize" how consumers get their products but also how employees were treated at these companies. So often it seems lately that tech giants are built in a super old fashioned way: on the backs of cheap labor.

Treating their employees well is how Google/Microsoft/Facebook are built. It's easy for them, it's office workers who bring super high margins. The business is more valuable by treating people well.

Businesses based on grunt work, like Amazon, can't do that. Their existence is based on infinite cheap labor, to execute as much grunt work as cheap as possible.

Re: Brutal life working in Amazon warehouse

#23

Try loading trucks at UPS and you'll think this is nothing.

And children in Africa suffer from parasites that literally eat their eyes out. Somebody always has it worse (maybe except children in Africa), that in no way means we should refrain from trying to make things better locally.

Re: Brutal life working in Amazon warehouse

#24

You know what would be awesome? If tech was used to not just "revolutionize" how consumers get their products but also how employees were treated at these companies. So often it seems lately that tech giants are built in a super old fashioned way: on the backs of cheap labor.

Treating their employees well is how Google/Microsoft/Facebook are built. It's easy for them, it's office workers who bring super high margins. The business is more valuable by treating people well. Businesses based on grunt work, like Amazon, can't do that. Their existence is based on infinite cheap labor, to execute as much grunt work as cheap as possible.

So why can Costco afford to treat their employees humanely?

Re: Brutal life working in Amazon warehouse

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Is it just me or is Amazon turning out to be even more evil than Walmart ever was? It's just cuz they're an "innovative" tech company, that we let them get away with it?

warehouse work has never been glamorous. it is grunt work. in a digital age where throughput gets measured and people become numbers in a chart it is easy to lose track of what reasonable is. what works elsewhere may not be appropriate. Amazon gets called out because they are the biggest not because they are the worst. Same reason large fast good gets called out but local diners get a pass. the drudgery and low pay m…

“We offer great jobs and a positive environment with opportunities for growth. As with most companies, we expect a certain level of performance.

Here in Europe we have similar jobs, but calling it a positive environment is a straight out lie. The problem is not that the work is hard, but that the company is lying about the effects the work has on the workers.

Re: Brutal life working in Amazon warehouse

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post #23

Try loading trucks at UPS and you'll think this is nothing.

And children in Africa suffer from parasites that literally eat their eyes out. Somebody always has it worse (maybe except children in Africa), that in no way means we should refrain from trying to make things better locally.

Perspective, I gotcha.

Re: Brutal life working in Amazon warehouse

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Treating their employees well is how Google/Microsoft/Facebook are built. It's easy for them, it's office workers who bring super high margins. The business is more valuable by treating people well. Businesses based on grunt work, like Amazon, can't do that. Their existence is based on infinite cheap labor, to execute as much grunt work as cheap as possible.

So why can Costco afford to treat their employees humanely?

Costco doesn't deliver millions of package a day for free to the door of their customers, does it?

Re: Brutal life working in Amazon warehouse

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Treating their employees well is how Google/Microsoft/Facebook are built. It's easy for them, it's office workers who bring super high margins. The business is more valuable by treating people well. Businesses based on grunt work, like Amazon, can't do that. Their existence is based on infinite cheap labor, to execute as much grunt work as cheap as possible.

So why can Costco afford to treat their employees humanely?

Costco: 184k employees[0]

Amazon: 591k employees[1]

I think you can also argue that a happy Costco worker = more sales, as they help customers better. May be harder to make the case that if a guy putting stuff in a box is happier, the end customer is any happier.

0 - https://www.statista.com/statistics/284430/costco-number-of-...

1 - https://www.inc.com/business-insider/jeff-bezos-amazon-emplo...

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