In all seriousness, this family goes beyond the two of them. (The third brother is real, and he is kept out of the spotlight). The twins are the public face of a much more secretive private empire.
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#12Maybe it's a bit of confirmation bias as I don't go out of my way to read Time magazine anymore. But compare their nationally known work to that of Conde Nast, another prestigious brand and also having major revenue problems as a media company. Despite that, The New Yorker doesn't seem to have lessened at all in the rate of influential and newsworthy pieces it produces (Rowan Farrow's expose of Harvey Weinstein being one of the more recent notables [0]).
If the Koch Brothers intend to use it part of their PR wing, they have a lot to do to boost the brand so that people even pay attention.
Possibly relevant historical example: In 2010, another well-known national magazine, Newsweek, was bought from the Washington Post for $1 by a mostly unknown billionaire [0], Sidney Harman, of Harman Kardon fame. Harman died in 2011, so whatever plans he had for Newsweek for his own purposes went unrealized. It was then sold to IBT Media, a mostly unknown company owned by a somewhat controversial charismatic Christian sect [2]. Was Newsweek used to advance its founders causes? Hard to say, like TIME, I can't remember the last time a Newsweek exclusive had national influence the way the New Yorker regularly does, though some people here may faintly recall their epic fuckup about Bitcoin's founder [3]. And having an independent, private source of wealth hasn't helped Newsweek be any more stable than it was when it got sold for $1 [4].
[0] http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/04/business/media/newsweek-bo...
[1] https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/harvey-weinsteins-a...
[2] http://www.motherjones.com/media/2014/03/newsweek-ibt-olivet...
[3] http://www.newsweek.com/2014/03/14/face-behind-bitcoin-24795...
[4] http://www.foliomag.com/newsweek-lays-off-impoco-others-peop...
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#13Now we have two (more) major newsoutlets owned by activist owners --WaPo and Time Mag. Wish there were more independence in the media. Or at least fewer owners who will push agendas. Time will tell.
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#14For example, the Kochs work hard to reframe discussion of government revenue / taxes, regulation, and government overall in order to reduce all of them (whatever you think of their goals, that is the case). If Gates invested politically in his goals, there might be much more government support for health and education, via funding, research, availability to citizens, and policy innovation. Despite Gate's vast wealth, the U.S. government spends orders of magnitude more than him; a million dollars influencing politics could leverage far more resources than a million spent directly on research.
Of course, everyone would be better off if the fate of the U.S. depended on democracy - one person, one vote - and not on the manipulations and influence of three people.
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#15I found this podcast, an interview with Charles Koch, interesting. There are two parts to it. Whatever the ideological issues may be, I found he spoke in an engaging way. http://freakonomics.com/podcast/why-hate-koch-brothers-part-... http://freakonomics.com/podcast/why-hate-koch-brothers-part-...
Charles seems like a nice guy. Curious, what is the political problem with him? https://youtu.be/Z7Pj2rKdKII A quote from the video: If you don't learn to do dirty jobs, if you don't learn unpleasant work, by the time you're in your 30s, you never learn to work productively ... you learn from that you don't want to do that the rest of your life, so you had better find some aptitude. He says that after telling about a…
[0] https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/03/do-the-...
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#16Now we have two (more) major newsoutlets owned by activist owners --WaPo and Time Mag. Wish there were more independence in the media. Or at least fewer owners who will push agendas. Time will tell.
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#17Now we have two (more) major newsoutlets owned by activist owners --WaPo and Time Mag. Wish there were more independence in the media. Or at least fewer owners who will push agendas. Time will tell.
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#18Now we have two (more) major newsoutlets owned by activist owners --WaPo and Time Mag. Wish there were more independence in the media. Or at least fewer owners who will push agendas. Time will tell.
Media outlets are valuable, thus your options for ownership are 1) very rich individuals or families or 2) large corporations. Which one of those did you want to see more of?
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#19I found this podcast, an interview with Charles Koch, interesting. There are two parts to it. Whatever the ideological issues may be, I found he spoke in an engaging way. http://freakonomics.com/podcast/why-hate-koch-brothers-part-... http://freakonomics.com/podcast/why-hate-koch-brothers-part-...
Charles seems like a nice guy. Curious, what is the political problem with him? https://youtu.be/Z7Pj2rKdKII A quote from the video: If you don't learn to do dirty jobs, if you don't learn unpleasant work, by the time you're in your 30s, you never learn to work productively ... you learn from that you don't want to do that the rest of your life, so you had better find some aptitude. He says that after telling about a…
> what is the political problem with him?
Just do a quick search and you'll find plenty of material. Essentially, they have revived the goals of the John Birch Society, an extreme right-wing group in which their father played an important role.
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#20Now we have two (more) major newsoutlets owned by activist owners --WaPo and Time Mag. Wish there were more independence in the media. Or at least fewer owners who will push agendas. Time will tell.
Has WaPo's "activist" owner had any real impact on what they choose to cover?
If WaPo had a reporter/editor who specialized in particular zealous investigations into Amazon, we would likely hear murmurs and off-the-record complaints about how WaPo has been going unexpectedly soft on Amazon post-acquisition. In contrast, there is no possibility of knowing how the average Wapo tech reporter would have covered Amazon in an alternate universe in 2017.