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The beginning of the end for copper wire

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Re: The beginning of the end for copper wire

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Pardon the possibly ignorant question, but what do the telecom companies have to gain by destroying their own infrastructure? I feel like I'm missing something about the US telecom market here.

Aren't these companies making a profit on this infrastructure? Are they selling more profitable services and they want users to switch over? Are the maintenance fees that high?

Re: The beginning of the end for copper wire

#13

Pardon the possibly ignorant question, but what do the telecom companies have to gain by destroying their own infrastructure? I feel like I'm missing something about the US telecom market here. Aren't these companies making a profit on this infrastructure? Are they selling more profitable services and they want users to switch over? Are the maintenance fees that high?

It’s not destroying the infrastructure, it’s abandoning it. The article states that prior to this ruling they’re required to maintain or replace with comparable functionality for existing copper customers.

This ruling let’s them abandon them altogether from what I gathered.

Re: The beginning of the end for copper wire

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post #9

Copper can still play a role. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/G.fast

From Wikipedia: "...for local loops shorter than 500 m"

It's doable in many cities.

A large part of the infrastructure you need to replace when upgrading is inside buildings. With a 500m radius, you can avoid rewiring buildings and have loops terminate in the street.

Re: The beginning of the end for copper wire

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post #13

Pardon the possibly ignorant question, but what do the telecom companies have to gain by destroying their own infrastructure? I feel like I'm missing something about the US telecom market here. Aren't these companies making a profit on this infrastructure? Are they selling more profitable services and they want users to switch over? Are the maintenance fees that high?

It’s not destroying the infrastructure, it’s abandoning it. The article states that prior to this ruling they’re required to maintain or replace with comparable functionality for existing copper customers. This ruling let’s them abandon them altogether from what I gathered.

Ok, but there are still paying customers on the end of that infrastructure. Are they not profitable enough?

Re: The beginning of the end for copper wire

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Pardon the possibly ignorant question, but what do the telecom companies have to gain by destroying their own infrastructure? I feel like I'm missing something about the US telecom market here. Aren't these companies making a profit on this infrastructure? Are they selling more profitable services and they want users to switch over? Are the maintenance fees that high?

In the U.S. rural telecoms access has always existed because of government mandates supported in part by government subsidies and taxes.

It would definitely be more profitable to drop support for large parts (land mass, not population) of the U.S. entirely.

Re: The beginning of the end for copper wire

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Pardon the possibly ignorant question, but what do the telecom companies have to gain by destroying their own infrastructure? I feel like I'm missing something about the US telecom market here. Aren't these companies making a profit on this infrastructure? Are they selling more profitable services and they want users to switch over? Are the maintenance fees that high?

Maintenance fees are likely to be high, especially considering that the companies are required to keep their copper lines maintained until no customers want copper service anymore. In rural areas, this could mean keeping miles and miles of line maintained for a single customer.

Selling the copper from the wires also could be quite lucrative.

Re: The beginning of the end for copper wire

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Pardon the possibly ignorant question, but what do the telecom companies have to gain by destroying their own infrastructure? I feel like I'm missing something about the US telecom market here. Aren't these companies making a profit on this infrastructure? Are they selling more profitable services and they want users to switch over? Are the maintenance fees that high?

In the U.S. rural telecoms access has always existed because of government mandates supported in part by government subsidies and taxes. It would definitely be more profitable to drop support for large parts (land mass, not population) of the U.S. entirely.

So the maintenance costs are driving this?
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