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Huge Commercial Cave in the Ozarks for Sale

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Re: Huge Commercial Cave in the Ozarks for Sale

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Post by NDizzle »

I visited this cave a few times growing up. The neatest thing about the cave is after the section where you can squeeze through (if dressed appropriately and you want to) a tiny opening, in the large cavern beyond there is a tree stump in the middle of the room. I don't know who moved it there or how they moved it there, but it always was amazing to me as a child. See the pictures of the people covered in red clay to get an idea of how tiny the opening is.

I grew up about 40 miles away from this cave.

Re: Huge Commercial Cave in the Ozarks for Sale

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Post by rmchugh »

Quote from the root page:

"God is calling multitudes of CHRISTIAN PREPPERS to the Ozarks to prepare for this time of social, economic, and spiritual breakdown of American society... in these end-times. Learn spiritual lessons on why and how to prepare. The “where to prepare” is the Ozarks, and the “when to prepare” is now… last year!"

Wow.

Re: Huge Commercial Cave in the Ozarks for Sale

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Post by Zaheer »

"15,000 CAVE VISITORS A YEAR

GROSSING $200,000 A YEAR

NETTING $75,000 A YEAR

$500,000 FOR CAVE AND 27 ACRES

$725,000 FOR CAVE AND 70 ACRES that also has an undeveloped cave on it" http://arkhaven.org/arkansas_real_estate.htm

$75K / year net on a $500k property isn't bad at all (~15%). With a bit of work the property could have even more potential.

Re: Huge Commercial Cave in the Ozarks for Sale

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Post by UnquietTinkerer »

endless1234 wrote: post #13
Aardwolf wrote: post #2

Genuinly nice and efficient (fast to load and scroll) website design. Of course looking at the HTML code removes the illusion of sleek hand coding, instead a now dated proprietery program seems to have been used. But still better than a slow page involving 100 JS frameworks to display a single article :)

The page weighs in at almost 9 megabytes. How is that efficient and fast to load? Lazy loading images would be a small and needed improvement - but of course it would require the horrible jaava skript to be used, which must be avoided at all costs.

I don't understand how lazy loading could help here. The images are all behind hyperlinks, and their display sizes are all hardcoded into the HTML. There is nothing preventing the browser from completing the page layout immediately and backfilling the images as the load.

That is not to say the page is well-designed or pretty - it is hideous. But lazy loading would make it strictly worse by adding js parse+eval latency on top of the loading time for the images.

Re: Huge Commercial Cave in the Ozarks for Sale

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Post by greglindahl »

Zaheer wrote: post #33

"15,000 CAVE VISITORS A YEAR GROSSING $200,000 A YEAR NETTING $75,000 A YEAR $500,000 FOR CAVE AND 27 ACRES $725,000 FOR CAVE AND 70 ACRES that also has an undeveloped cave on it" http://arkhaven.org/arkansas_real_estate.htm $75K / year net on a $500k property isn't bad at all (~15%). With a bit of work the property could have even more potential.

... no mention of how much liability insurance would cost.

Re: Huge Commercial Cave in the Ozarks for Sale

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Post by sdenton4 »

NDizzle wrote: post #31

I visited this cave a few times growing up. The neatest thing about the cave is after the section where you can squeeze through (if dressed appropriately and you want to) a tiny opening, in the large cavern beyond there is a tree stump in the middle of the room. I don't know who moved it there or how they moved it there, but it always was amazing to me as a child. See the pictures of the people covered in red clay to…

I grew up in Missouri; my dad was amember of the Missouri Speleological Society, and we spent a lot of weekends wandering into unlit holes in the earth.

Missouri, Arkansas and Tennessee are built on limestone and have a lot of subterranean water moving around - meaning there are a lot of caves. Like, a kind of stupid number of caves. When I was a kid, Missouri had more caves than any other state, but it lost the title to Tennessee at some point, as more and more caves were found to be connected to one another. And a few of these caves have been commercialized for a very long time, like the one in the posting. The caves are a pretty magical feature of an otherwise (IMO) pretty bland part of the country.

Re: Huge Commercial Cave in the Ozarks for Sale

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Post by mikestew »

mrfusion wrote: post #6

Would someone mind calling and getting the price for us?

Here’s the page from that domain that should have been used, which gives the prices: http://arkhaven.org/arkansas_real_estate.htm

“15,000 CAVE VISITORS A YEAR

GROSSING $200,000 A YEAR

NETTING $75,000 A YEAR

$500,000 FOR CAVE AND 27 ACRES

$725,000 FOR CAVE AND 70 ACRES

that also has an undeveloped cave on it”

Re: Huge Commercial Cave in the Ozarks for Sale

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Post by Tinyyy »

TheAdamAndChe wrote: post #9
robk wrote: post #5

The caves look cool but the Prepper links on that page make me very wary of the kinds of neighbors you'd have there!

Why? Prepping is a common hobby among the rich: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/01/30/doomsday-prep-...

That’s a really interesting article, thanks for bringing it up!
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