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Facebook Can’t Cope with the World It’s Created

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Re: Facebook Can’t Cope with the World It’s Created

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Post by nindalf »

mtgx wrote: post #59
FreakyT wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Upvotes on HN/Reddit do essentially the same thing. I don't have the user statistics, but I'd imagine the typical HN reader only reads a sampling of the top-voted comments, which essentially allows them "to see how others feel about a post/article in an instant." If you want an example of the opposite approach, you can always look at 2009-era YouTube, when all comments shown were in a strict "newest" order. If you re…

> but I'd imagine the typical HN reader only reads a sampling of the top-voted comments That, and it doesn't help that on threads with hundreds of comments, most of them are hidden away.

Well, that's the same problem that any feed faces - 100s of pieces of content, and the user only wants the best 10-15.

Re: Facebook Can’t Cope with the World It’s Created

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Post by saas_co_de »

SomeStupidPoint wrote: post #53
b0rsuk wrote: post #21

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I'm afraid it won't work well without extra regulation laws. Even if Facebook is broken, it has shown the way. Before, it was MySpace (although it was never so popular). If someone breaks FB, the strongest competitor living in its shadow will step up. I think it is the nature of certain services to centralize. Search engines, social networks. Unless someone forces them to inter-operate, it's winner takes all.

> Unless someone forces them to inter-operate, it's winner takes all. So you mandate inter-operation at the same time you break up the biggest, just like we've done with every other natural monopoly.

I find it interesting that phone number portability was introduced long ago but no email or social profile portability.

Re: Facebook Can’t Cope with the World It’s Created

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Post by throwanem »

deletefb wrote: post #29
john2x wrote: post #7

My idea for a quick fix is to remove likes/dislikes/emoji reactions. If people can't see how others feel about a post/article in an instant, they might have to read and decide for themselves how to feel.

My idea for a permanent fix is for Facebook to go out of business. Completely. Forever.

If there's a market for something like it, there will exist something like it. The interesting question is how to make something like it so uncompetitive that nothing like it can survive.

Re: Facebook Can’t Cope with the World It’s Created

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Post by saas_co_de »

beautifulfreak wrote: post #49

>Facebook can no longer deny its moral responsibility to try to understand how cyberspace, law, and politics collide in each of the countries where it operates, nor its responsibility to do something about it. That sentence doesn't make sense. Do something about what? How those things collide? It's very unclear what the author thinks Facebook is supposed to do, or what he thinks Facebook is actually responsible for.…

Yes, it is interesting that the author sees no place in the modern world for the kind of free speech enshrined in the U.S. Constitution. They are happy with a giant global monopolist controlling all speech, as long as they use that power to enforce their political agenda.

That is an incredibly dangerous mindset and one that seems to be becoming more pervasive in respectable circles.

Re: Facebook Can’t Cope with the World It’s Created

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Post by jasonkostempski »

deletefb wrote: post #31
felipeko wrote: post #25

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I don't understand why do you think that. The biggest problem of big companies is when they hurt consumers with predatory practices. With Facebook I fail to see how that's the case. Everybody is perfectly capable of not being hurt by their own accord by just no using it. If the problem is how it influences politics and government, I think that's even a point against letting the government mess with it, as it is a pow…

Yeah, why don’t opioid addicts just stop? And why don’t fat people just lose weight and eat healthy? And why don’t poor people just stop being poor? Clearly every issue in society is a result of a lack of personal responsibility.

Of all those issues, only opioids are regulated and there seems to be some evidence that drug regulations themselves are part of rise in addictions. I'm not seeing much evidence these days that new laws and giving government more control is a good fix for anything.

Re: Facebook Can’t Cope with the World It’s Created

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Post by maneesh »

throwanem wrote: post #63
deletefb wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My idea for a permanent fix is for Facebook to go out of business. Completely. Forever.

If there's a market for something like it, there will exist something like it. The interesting question is how to make something like it so uncompetitive that nothing like it can survive.

Create a cryptocurrency which you mine based on limiting social media usage

Re: Facebook Can’t Cope with the World It’s Created

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Post by sunseb »

I feel FB is kind of dying anyway. All the trendy/cool/geek people have left FB. Users don't share much stuff anymore. There is this ego fatigue too: people are tired of playing this game of making their life looks cool on FB.

It's no coincidence that FB buy WhatsApp, Instagram, Occulus: they have the metrics and they need to move on to something else.

Re: Facebook Can’t Cope with the World It’s Created

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Post by sz4kerto »

stabbles wrote: post #45

I'm curious how many HN people still use Facebook. The overall sentiment here seems to be to just quit it.

Those are people who are vocal about their choices.

Based on what you're reading here, the average HNer uses Fastmail, has no Facebook account, writes code in Rust, exercises a lot, wants a self-driving car and works at or owns a start-up.

While most people reading this site are most likely Java, JS or .Net programmers; work at a large enterprise, use Gmail and Facebook.

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