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Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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post #129

Offtopic: 'ciao' doesn't mean only 'goodbye' as the author seems to imply given the title. It means both 'hello' or 'goodbye'. It is similar to the Hawaiian 'aloha' when used as a greeting.

I'm Italian and agree with you. This said, I'm reasonably sure that in countries like Brazil ciao is only used as good bye, so maybe this explains the confusion. FWIW, I've also saw it written as "chao", which made me rofl.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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On my machine (nMP with dual FirePro D700’s) there’s a noticeable “stall” when Quantum navigates to a page. This isn’t there on Blink or WebKit. I’m not sure how to go about trying to get it looked at.

I had the same problem; I tracked it down to a problem with my particular macOS user account most likely caused by me changing the home directory name post-facto. ( https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT201548 ) I made the change because I didn't want my full name as the account name. The problem didn't present itself prior to (IIRC) updating to macOS Sierra. To determine whether this is the cause for your particular pro…

I’ve always had the same 4 letter username and homedir so I’m not sure this is it.

It’s a really annoying issue because the “stall” is like 0.75-1 second every time I navigate anywhere.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And what vim_coder and ConputerGuru meant was that Firefox would present a spoofed list of supported codecs to YouTube to force selection of the higher bandwidth, lower-powered codec. Just because Firefox technically supports a format doesn't mean it has to disclose that format to external servers for selection.

Having custom behaviors for specific sites is a terrible practice. Browsers are complex enough as they are without an extra layer of hacks.

Who said anything about custom behavior for custom sites? A simple “on battery? X264/265 only” is what’s being discussed here.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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post #84

I'm surprised at the success of Mozilla's PR push for this. It seems the time is right for this. Probably helps that tech sites seem to compete to have an article on every "current" topic.

Using the new Firefox, I find myself wishing the phone OS project had succeeded. I want something to Android what Quantum is to Chrome. Timing is everything, I wonder if it could have succeeded now.

Ah yes. The fight for smartphone OS dominance is unfortunately over, but I do hope a company like Mozilla could secure a leading spot in the next big consumer technology platform (my bet would be AR), so we can have the option to choose an open platform that respects user freedom, backed by a team that truly has the users' best interests in mind.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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post #129

Offtopic: 'ciao' doesn't mean only 'goodbye' as the author seems to imply given the title. It means both 'hello' or 'goodbye'. It is similar to the Hawaiian 'aloha' when used as a greeting.

I'm Italian and agree with you. This said, I'm reasonably sure that in countries like Brazil ciao is only used as good bye, so maybe this explains the confusion. FWIW, I've also saw it written as "chao", which made me rofl.

"Chao" is used in some spanish-speaking countries for bye. So technically it is not misspelled :-)

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had the same problem; I tracked it down to a problem with my particular macOS user account most likely caused by me changing the home directory name post-facto. ( https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT201548 ) I made the change because I didn't want my full name as the account name. The problem didn't present itself prior to (IIRC) updating to macOS Sierra. To determine whether this is the cause for your particular pro…

I’ve always had the same 4 letter username and homedir so I’m not sure this is it. It’s a really annoying issue because the “stall” is like 0.75-1 second every time I navigate anywhere.

I was only able to hypothesise the cause, as that happened to correlate well in my minuscule sample size; your data point appears to have invalidated that. I regret not being able to isolate the cause properly.

I would still run the user account experiment — your described symptom matches exactly what I experienced. It should only take a few minutes to make an account, log into it and run Firefox.

What I do know:

* The problem started after a major macOS version upgrade, almost certainly Sierra.

* The problem occurred on my desktop and my laptop, but not my wife's computers that saw largely similar install history but more plain-vanilla usage patterns.

* The contents of the Firefox profile directory do not matter; the problem occurs with a completely fresh profile.

* The contents of the ~/Library directory do not seem to matter; creating a new user account and moving the entire contents of ~/Library back fixed it.

* The problem could not be replicated within any other user accounts on the same machine where the problem occurred.

* I was unable to create a faulty user account.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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post #183

On my end, I never actually stopped using Firefox after Chrome came out. I had Chrome installed and used it mostly for testing and validation of web code, but my day-to-day was Firefox. I had my extensions configured and setup in it and my large collection of bookmarks was there (I guess I was just too lazy to import them into Chrome). I think the main reason I stuck with Firefox was because I used Android and the Fi…

As an avid Vivaldi user, I was impressed with what Firefox Quantum had to offer. I hadn't used Firefox since Chrome became dominant, it was interesting to see what Firefox had to offer compared to the Chromium-based ecosystem.

Personally, I would consider Firefox Quantum to be a step up over Chrome, but it's still missing much of the customization that I grew to love under Vivaldi. Simply being unable to change keybindings or the speed dial selection were enough to draw me back to Vivaldi, but I'll be keeping a keen eye on Firefox development from now on.

I do agree however, the lack of syncing is a major drawback to Vivaldi, and one I hope they will add in the near future.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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post #129

Offtopic: 'ciao' doesn't mean only 'goodbye' as the author seems to imply given the title. It means both 'hello' or 'goodbye'. It is similar to the Hawaiian 'aloha' when used as a greeting.

I'm Italian and agree with you. This said, I'm reasonably sure that in countries like Brazil ciao is only used as good bye, so maybe this explains the confusion. FWIW, I've also saw it written as "chao", which made me rofl.

Brazilians spell it "tchau" (due to ch representing /ʃ/ rather than /tʃ/ in Portuguese -- like German sch for /ʃ/ and tsch for /tʃ/).

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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post #110
post #30

And yet 95% of the time I try to watch YouTube in Firefox, it just hangs, never actually playing. Yet Chrome works flawlessly every time. I'm not saying Google is doing anything malicious here, I think it's more of a "we put a lot more effort into making YouTube work" kinda thing.

I've seen something similar — because I turned off auto playing videos. Manually scrubbing the video forward and back seems to fix it for me. It's also not that surprising that Google has less of an incentive to test interoperability with their competitor's product…

I've just been clicking the small play button.
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