Nationalize the internet

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Post by ourmandave » Sat, Nov 25, 2017, 6:34 PM UTC

Nationalize the internet
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Re: Nationalize the internet

#2

Post by jstanley » Sat, Nov 25, 2017, 6:44 PM UTC

People in countries other than the US might have something to say about that!

Re: Nationalize the internet

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Post by shaftoe » Sat, Nov 25, 2017, 6:46 PM UTC

Generally, when you want something to remain free from coercion or interference, nationalization isn't the way to go.

Re: Nationalize the internet

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Post by jstanley » Sat, Nov 25, 2017, 6:53 PM UTC

shaftoe wrote: post #3

Generally, when you want something to remain free from coercion or interference, nationalization isn't the way to go.

I strongly disagree. I think if you want something to remain free from coercion or interference, giving it to the government is the last thing you want to do.

If you want something to remain free from coercion or interference, decentralisation is the way to go.

Edit: Oops! I totally misread your comment ("is" vs "isn't"). Turns out I'm agreeing :)

Re: Nationalize the internet

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Post by aristocles » Sat, Nov 25, 2017, 6:54 PM UTC

I registered just to say this is literally the worst idea I've ever seen.

Re: Nationalize the internet

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Post by wslh » Sat, Nov 25, 2017, 6:55 PM UTC

jstanley wrote: post #4

shaftoe wrote: post #3

Generally, when you want something to remain free from coercion or interference, nationalization isn't the way to go.

I strongly disagree. I think if you want something to remain free from coercion or interference, giving it to the government is the last thing you want to do. If you want something to remain free from coercion or interference, decentralisation is the way to go. Edit: Oops! I totally misread your comment ("is" vs "isn't"). Turns out I'm agreeing :)

Governments inflate agency costs ad infinitum without increasing the QoS. This is not a law but based on statistics around the major countries.

Re: Nationalize the internet

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Post by hanklazard » Sat, Nov 25, 2017, 6:55 PM UTC

I would love for this to work, but im afraid the temptation for the government to control / censor information would be too great.

Re: Nationalize the internet

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Post by aaron-lebo » Sat, Nov 25, 2017, 6:58 PM UTC

I genuinely struggle to understand proposals like this. The current political system is broken - the FCC is symptomatic of that. In what world does it seem like a good idea to give more power to that broken system?

Re: Nationalize the internet

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Post by TheAdamAndChe » Sat, Nov 25, 2017, 6:59 PM UTC

wslh wrote: post #6

jstanley wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I strongly disagree. I think if you want something to remain free from coercion or interference, giving it to the government is the last thing you want to do. If you want something to remain free from coercion or interference, decentralisation is the way to go. Edit: Oops! I totally misread your comment ("is" vs "isn't"). Turns out I'm agreeing :)

Governments inflate agency costs ad infinitum without increasing the QoS. This is not a law but based on statistics around the major countries.

Not always. Many European countries have nationalized healthcare, yet manage to have better healthcare outcomes than the US even though they spend much less per capita.

The question isn't why _government_ leads to inflated cost, the question is why _American government_ leads to inflated cost.

Re: Nationalize the internet

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Post by mungojelly » Sat, Nov 25, 2017, 6:59 PM UTC

hanklazard wrote: post #7

I would love for this to work, but im afraid the temptation for the government to control / censor information would be too great.

How could they, though? Ban all encrypted traffic? Isn't that cat out of the bag?