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More Than a Million Pro-Repeal Net Neutrality Comments Were Likely Faked

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Re: More Than a Million Pro-Repeal Net Neutrality Comments Were Likely Faked

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FCC has explicitly said that they have ignored any opinion comments. They have only considered comments which bring new facts or a legal opinion. So the fact that many comments were faked is irrelevant anyway.

Isn't is still fraud though? Submissions of opinions to a government agency under citizen's names without their consent or even knowledge -- it sounds illegal and not addressing this sorta thing now sets a crazy precedent.

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#22

FCC has explicitly said that they have ignored any opinion comments. They have only considered comments which bring new facts or a legal opinion. So the fact that many comments were faked is irrelevant anyway.

Right. They outright said that they are only worried about getting into legal trouble for what they're doing. Protecting the public interest is no longer considered to be part of their mandate.

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#23

It's times like these where an actual - in person protest - might be more effective.

I posted this last week and stand by it...

A small counter suggestion. I know we all tend to be introverted but...go visit your reps. Visit them in DC, visit them in their offices in your area. Most will be home this week for thanksgiving and almost all will be home over the holiday break. Email them to schedule a meeting or call. Make them explain this to your face.

I tried this and after five emails have meetings with my rep and both my senators scheduled less than a week out.

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#24

What needs to happen for shit like this not to happen anymore.

Get money out of politics. No more superPACs. No more third party bullshit. My proposal: only contributions from individuals to official campaign organizations. Each person can donate a total of $100, split any way they want. I’m tired of so many decisions being made at the behest of some campaign funder whispering in a politician’s ear. Our democracy is being corroded by all this money.

Better yet, make it a tax break. You can choose where $100 of your tax goes by writing in the organizations.

This is a thing in Poland for donating to nonprofits, except it's 1% of your tax. It seems to work alright.

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#25

I got a bunch of emails from senators thanking me for contacting them this week... before I had contacted any of them. Who knows what was said in my name.

I would report that to them, report that to the Sergeant at Arms for the US Congress (because hey...that seems like a CFAA violation using their computer system), and your state attorney general.

Being angry accomplishes nothing, being noisy accomplishes a little. being FUCKING ANNOYING and ever present accomplishes marginally but meaningfully more.

Re: More Than a Million Pro-Repeal Net Neutrality Comments Were Likely Faked

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post #8

I'm glad that this is being brought up. However, duplicated comments are not necessarily faked. For instance, there are many times centralized campaigns that people can sign onto for sending messages. The messages from those, while identical, are proper and what the individuals believe. This happens on both sides of issues. So, please continue to investigate, but be careful you don't interject your own biases into yo…

Sure. But where is this campaign located, exactly?

And how come dead people are signing up for it in droves, as has been discovered in the past?

And how come people who didn't sign up for it find "their" comments sent, too?

I'm all for avoiding bias, but we know enough about this campaign by now to say with certainty it's shady.

Re: More Than a Million Pro-Repeal Net Neutrality Comments Were Likely Faked

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Get money out of politics. No more superPACs. No more third party bullshit. My proposal: only contributions from individuals to official campaign organizations. Each person can donate a total of $100, split any way they want. I’m tired of so many decisions being made at the behest of some campaign funder whispering in a politician’s ear. Our democracy is being corroded by all this money.

Better yet, make it a tax break. You can choose where $100 of your tax goes by writing in the organizations. This is a thing in Poland for donating to nonprofits, except it's 1% of your tax. It seems to work alright.

How will this help stop, if not even do more to empower, ambitious billionaires seeking public office to further their own goals?

Re: More Than a Million Pro-Repeal Net Neutrality Comments Were Likely Faked

#28

What needs to happen for shit like this not to happen anymore.

Get money out of politics. No more superPACs. No more third party bullshit. My proposal: only contributions from individuals to official campaign organizations. Each person can donate a total of $100, split any way they want. I’m tired of so many decisions being made at the behest of some campaign funder whispering in a politician’s ear. Our democracy is being corroded by all this money.

Here in Europe the same deals happen, but it just happens behind the scenes, so you don’t know what’s going on.

In the US PACs are required to disclose their donors, so you at least have some idea who is trying to push their agenda.

Re: More Than a Million Pro-Repeal Net Neutrality Comments Were Likely Faked

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post #23

It's times like these where an actual - in person protest - might be more effective.

I posted this last week and stand by it... A small counter suggestion. I know we all tend to be introverted but...go visit your reps. Visit them in DC, visit them in their offices in your area. Most will be home this week for thanksgiving and almost all will be home over the holiday break. Email them to schedule a meeting or call. Make them explain this to your face. I tried this and after five emails have meetings w…

> I tried this and after five emails have meetings with my rep and both my senators scheduled less than a week out.

Good for you. I'm going to go back to eating my leftover turkey and continue black friday/cyber Monday shopping. Maybe I'll check my Tesla Model 3 preorder status.

Re: More Than a Million Pro-Repeal Net Neutrality Comments Were Likely Faked

#30
post #2

Just like the election, I wonder if the people behind this care if they get caught as long as they get what they want first. There doesn't seem to be much precedent for overturning laws or elections that were subject to misinformation campaigns.

> Just like the election

Please don't instigate a flame war.

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