He is basically asking for more surveillance and less anonymity ...
An Open Letter to the FCC
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Re: An Open Letter to the FCC
#212Earlier quoted context omitted.
I believe that there are a lot of fake comments(possibly threads) appearing on Hacker News. I'm sure on Reddit and everywhere on the Internet that influences peoples' oomph to stand up for something like Net Neutrality. I mean why in the world in 2017 are we so apathetic about something so important? We were up in arms about in 2013 and stopped SOPA then!!!
Apathetic? Have you seen Reddit today or yesterday? The top post in 90% of subreddits are pro-net-neutrality posts, even where it makes no sense. I can't think of a time when that much of a stink was made, including SOPA. The reason it's not working this time around is because you have an FCC chair whose not really interested in what the public thinks - you're not his constituents, and you're not the constituents of…
I’ve seen reddit, but ultimately that means nothing. Posting a comment on a forum (even reddit or hn) is in itself meaningless. It’s oretty much the definitio or apathetic.
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#213Man, reddit's frontpage was almost 100% links to battleforthenet.com today. I'd like to point out something not widely mentioned: battleforthenet is ran by org called 'Fight for the Future'; they are funded by Open Society Initiative, which is George Soros's organization. As soon as I see his name involved, I assume that a) the appearance of a 'grassroot movement' is completely fake and just part of his playbook, and…
Hey I couoldn't find any citation or reference. Could you please find a citation for that claim.. it is very fishy.
Citation or reference to what?
Go to the site, scroll all the way down, it says 'built by Fight for the Future', and even links to it: https://www.fightforthefuture.org/
On that site, go to 'Supporters' page: https://www.fightforthefuture.org/supporters/
Open Society Foundations is listed there.
Re: An Open Letter to the FCC
#214Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apathetic? Have you seen Reddit today or yesterday? The top post in 90% of subreddits are pro-net-neutrality posts, even where it makes no sense. I can't think of a time when that much of a stink was made, including SOPA. The reason it's not working this time around is because you have an FCC chair whose not really interested in what the public thinks - you're not his constituents, and you're not the constituents of…
I’ve seen reddit, but ultimately that means nothing. Posting a comment on a forum (even reddit or hn) is in itself meaningless. It’s oretty much the definitio or apathetic.
How so when there’s a hired army of people or bots to create fake comments that are pro Net Neutrality. There’s so many such comments.. threads even that all real members of a community see the flood of pro Neutrality comments and become apathetic. They think the flood of comments are what the majority of members feel leaving them to think a) It must not be that bad & then b) do not speak up against a majority.
This effectively drowns out the opposition. Proponents of Net Neutrality already flooded the FCC with fake comments as the guy above noted they stole his identity. What makes you think they don’t have an army of an army fake social media commenters to shape the conversation in their favor? Especially on influential tech sites like this!
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#215It's been really interesting to see the interplay between State Attorneys General and the federal executive branch over the past decade. I don't know enough legal history to know if this contention is new or has always happened. But the contrast between what happened with regulation of carbon and coal is fairly striking. The federal judicial brach said that it had to be regulated in order to meet the laws that the le…
The stuff with FERC & DOE is a little more complex. Nobody likes coal, and the north American electricity market mechanisms have had prices for years that are too low for coal to turn a profit. Great, the market has spoken you say? The only problem is it presents a major issue for national security if all you have is natural gas and some renewable. What happens if the pipelines freeze? Grid resiliency means having a diverse enough fuel mix to still be ok if we have certain disasters. One day we'll hopefully have very large and affordable batteries and a lot more renewables, but despite huge growth in this sector, most demand is still sourced from unclean fossil fuels today. Nobody (except Perry) is really expecting or wanting coal to make a comeback. They're just trying to provide a market mechanism to compensate power companies to keep just enough coal online so we can better hedge against blackouts.
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#216I'm one of the people who has had part of their identity used to submit false comments. Found out when a journalist emailed me asking me to do a survey and some additional comments months ago. I proceeded to sign up for an API key[1] to confirm what was being claimed and turns out, it was true. The API is a bit limited, but I was also able to do searches using the falsely submitted comment to find others like it as w…
>What is a citizen to do when they try to do everything in their power and play by the rules - vote, submit comments, call representatives, contact press for help, and repeat - results in nothing? you already know the answer, you are just afraid to say it. stop playing by the rules. arm yourself and your allies. then send a clear signal that there will be blood if your political demands are not met. >I'm not even sur…
Haven't we already asked you to please not abuse HN with political battle? That's not at all what we're here for, so please stop.
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#217I'm one of the people who has had part of their identity used to submit false comments. Found out when a journalist emailed me asking me to do a survey and some additional comments months ago. I proceeded to sign up for an API key[1] to confirm what was being claimed and turns out, it was true. The API is a bit limited, but I was also able to do searches using the falsely submitted comment to find others like it as w…
I believe that there are a lot of fake comments(possibly threads) appearing on Hacker News. I'm sure on Reddit and everywhere on the Internet that influences peoples' oomph to stand up for something like Net Neutrality. I mean why in the world in 2017 are we so apathetic about something so important? We were up in arms about in 2013 and stopped SOPA then!!!
I'm not sure if you're claiming that my comment is fake, but I can assure you it's not. I'm also not apathetic as I've done everything possible including reminding everyone I know (yet again) to follow my steps in trying to stop this. If I do come off as apathetic, it's probably because I'm just worn down mentally and emotionally from the days/weeks I've spent investigating my situation only for it to lead to this.
You say we should be up in arms, but realistically, what can we do? I'm pretty sure I've literally done everything I can do given my personal and financial situation. I've read through all the comments and while potentially helpful for my situation, none actually address what can be done for Net Neutrality. So I'm just going to repeat, what can I/we even do anymore?
Re: An Open Letter to the FCC
#218Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm curious, where would you expect someone with years of experience in a specific industry to go after public office? Besides public office, of course.
If I wrote regulations that benefitted Google, I would hope I’d go work at Qualcomm or somewhere unrelated. It gives the appearance of quid pro quo.
If I started selling a product that may have benefited a future employer, should I not work for that employer in the future? Not saying these are at all equivalent situations given the amount of power Pai but curious all the same.
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#219Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not the exact same thing. Phone calls are predominantly direct, 1:1 exchanges (in some cases you may have a conference call with a few other parties on the line). No single party could be responsible for a huge majority of the load on a phone network without seeing proportional billing; that is, if you wanted to have 300 simultaneous calls from your office, you had to pay for 300 open phone lines. Since the inte…
>Phone calls are predominantly direct, 1:1 exchanges >Since the internet is instead a broadcast medium, it is much easier for big players to saturate the lines The Internet is _not_ a broadcast medium. Data transfer over the Internet is by nature peer-to-peer. >ISPs naturally believe that _someone_ should be paying for what they interpret as the "extra load" from these big players Someone _is_ paying for the load for…
> we're the ones getting bent over the barrel.
Only in the indirect sense that all expenses ultimately filter down to the customer/buyer. The common trope that businesses never take a loss and always find some creative way to pass each expense onto the consumer is total nonsense, except insofar as it's just a simple tautology that states the obvious fact that a business's revenue must cover its own expenses.
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#220Man, reddit's frontpage was almost 100% links to battleforthenet.com today. I'd like to point out something not widely mentioned: battleforthenet is ran by org called 'Fight for the Future'; they are funded by Open Society Initiative, which is George Soros's organization. As soon as I see his name involved, I assume that a) the appearance of a 'grassroot movement' is completely fake and just part of his playbook, and…
Hey I couoldn't find any citation or reference. Could you please find a citation for that claim.. it is very fishy.
Here's an article about it too: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/soros-ford-foundation-shov...