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Windows 10 switchover will cost Linux champion Munich €50m

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Re: Windows 10 switchover will cost Linux champion Munich €50m

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> Today the CSU political party, which has a long track record of opposition to LiMux, is also part of the ruling coalition in Munich. It was this coalition of CSU and SPD politicians that put forward the proposals to switch back to Windows 10 earlier this year. How do you say "pork" in German?

Schweinefleisch

I think he was referring to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pork_barrel

Re: Windows 10 switchover will cost Linux champion Munich €50m

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure the level of support needed for Windows systems is much different to that of Linux. There will be an associated cost in both cases.

Also, I'd argue that IT support for linux is much easier to provide (and therefore, _should_ be cheaper, I can't say whether it is or not).

It depends on the type of support. I'd expect a place such as the city hall to be somewhat low tech, regarding user sophistication levels. And in such an environment most of the support requests are the "where did the button go?" type.

A switch to Linux has a good chance to increase these types of requests, at least in the near term.

Re: Windows 10 switchover will cost Linux champion Munich €50m

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure the level of support needed for Windows systems is much different to that of Linux. There will be an associated cost in both cases.

Also, I'd argue that IT support for linux is much easier to provide (and therefore, _should_ be cheaper, I can't say whether it is or not).

I think that the main problem when it comes to Linux support is that people who really understand Linux/UNIX have an easier time finding better paying positions. Lower paid IT workers tend to hang around the MS ecosystem. This shows up in the cost of maintenance for Linux solutions.

Re: Windows 10 switchover will cost Linux champion Munich €50m

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They should just get office 365 and use the online version of word Excel and PowerPoint in chromium. That's better than libre office and they won't need to switch to windows 10.

They'd still produce documents in proprietary software, which is one of the reasons they migrated the first time.

A government should not set itself up in a way that requires software from a specific vendor to interact with it.

Re: Windows 10 switchover will cost Linux champion Munich €50m

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also, I'd argue that IT support for linux is much easier to provide (and therefore, _should_ be cheaper, I can't say whether it is or not).

It depends on the type of support. I'd expect a place such as the city hall to be somewhat low tech, regarding user sophistication levels. And in such an environment most of the support requests are the "where did the button go?" type. A switch to Linux has a good chance to increase these types of requests, at least in the near term.

Users should not be fiddling with the parts of the environment that change between Windows and Linux. Users should not be sticking USB sticks, setting up printers and so on. They should run the programs they are supposed to run in order to work.

Re: Windows 10 switchover will cost Linux champion Munich €50m

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That's not at all what it says. The cost of moving to Windows and office is ~€5 million: >€ 4.8 million and licenses (for Microsoft Windows, Microsoft Office, software distribution, The €50 is for hardware replacements that were going to happen anyway. Nothing in the article addresses the harder to track costs of user efficiency and expert support staff. I'm not claiming it's cheaper in either direction, but staffing…

Plus, wouldnt the cost be nearly the same if they were on older windows/office and just looking to upgrade to latest?

Re: Windows 10 switchover will cost Linux champion Munich €50m

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That's not at all what it says. The cost of moving to Windows and office is ~€5 million: >€ 4.8 million and licenses (for Microsoft Windows, Microsoft Office, software distribution, The €50 is for hardware replacements that were going to happen anyway. Nothing in the article addresses the harder to track costs of user efficiency and expert support staff. I'm not claiming it's cheaper in either direction, but staffing…

I am not sure if your short summary is correct either.

Isn't Windows is the reason why they want to tranformation from Linux to Windows?

The original documents say something else. The original document mentions 89 million EUR. If the translation is half correct:

https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?act=url&...

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&pr...

Re: Windows 10 switchover will cost Linux champion Munich €50m

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They should just get office 365 and use the online version of word Excel and PowerPoint in chromium. That's better than libre office and they won't need to switch to windows 10.

Online versions still pale in comparison to the desktop client. I'm sure people in accounting would be upset by a forced transition from desktop Excel.
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