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Introducing Scrivener 3

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Re: Introducing Scrivener 3

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Post by sambe »

rayalez wrote: post #33

For screenwriting I highly recommend checking out emacs fountain mode [1] (plus imenu-list and Olivetti minor modes). In combination with org-mode it is the most powerful writing/outlining tool you can imagine. Also, if you haven't tried them, I highly recommend checking out WorkFlowy [2], Gingko [3], or Nulis [4] (disclaimer - nulis is my own project). Outlining and organizing projects as a tree structure is insanel…

I always thought that a major reason to use Scrivener was to do with studios being very fussy about standardised formats and layouts - something that may take quite a bit of time to setup in other editors. You also don't want to do it through trial and error if they are going to discard on first failure. Is this not true? If true, how do you ensure your Emacs output matches requirements?

Re: Introducing Scrivener 3

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Post by bewe42 »

phodo wrote: post #81
bewe42 wrote: post #75

Even more amazing is a little tool called Scapple from the same author. I use it to brainstorm and collect thoughts. Absolutely love it and I read that they plan to update it as well. Can't wait.

I was about to ask about this tool. Looks amazing. How have you found it to alternatives (e.g. onenote / evernote, mindmap tools, etc.)?

It's not an alternative to a note-taking app. Scapple helps me to clear my thought process like no other tool. It works for me because it's so simple and limited. That's why I'm actually ambivalent about an upgrade and fear it might get too many new features and loses it's appeal, though as I understand the author he's fully aware of this. There are just a few things I miss

Re: Introducing Scrivener 3

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Post by claystu »

zhubert wrote: post #2

Good work on the new release. As a long time Scrivener 2 user, I'm happy to see this. However, I wanted a simpler and subjectively nicer looking tool for distraction-free writing and thus made my own. It's free, has a few social features built-in, tracks writing progress/goals/distractions, and can make good looking books. Also, adding features to Singular Writer has been really easy, as evidenced by it being in exis…

This looks great! I have two questions: 1) Can you resize the notecards for easier management 2) Can you export to .docx for publication submission?

Re: Introducing Scrivener 3

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Post by kemayo »

coldtea wrote: post #86
kemayo wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Curious whether you have any plans for an iOS app accompanying this? My partner uses Scrivener for writing currently, but does a lot of it on their iPad, so Scrivener's app + Dropbox sync is a fairly important thing for them. (Scrivener's Dropbox sync being frequently buggy may help explain why I'm asking about this for them...)

> (Scrivener's Dropbox sync being frequently buggy may help explain why I'm asking about this for them...) Hmm, never had an issue with Scrivener/Dropbox sync. Mind you, I open Scrivener only 3-4 times a week and close it after I'm done with a document. I also don't use it frequently from my other machines (iMac/iPad), so it mainly syncs what I save on the main driver.

Yeah, they have a workflow that's very switching-dependent. Go out and work with the iPad all day, then switch and edit on a laptop at home.

They also like working at some coffee shops with not-ideal WiFi, which may help to expose bad sync cases. (I think it's fine for the sync to fail sometimes, but they've lost work before to this, which seems unacceptable.)

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Post by zhubert »

claystu wrote: post #93
zhubert wrote: post #2

Good work on the new release. As a long time Scrivener 2 user, I'm happy to see this. However, I wanted a simpler and subjectively nicer looking tool for distraction-free writing and thus made my own. It's free, has a few social features built-in, tracks writing progress/goals/distractions, and can make good looking books. Also, adding features to Singular Writer has been really easy, as evidenced by it being in exis…

This looks great! I have two questions: 1) Can you resize the notecards for easier management 2) Can you export to .docx for publication submission?

Thanks!

1) for instance with a little slider? yeah, that makes sense, Trello'ing 2) .docx export is already in Trello, so hopefully not too long of a wait

Re: Introducing Scrivener 3

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Post by zhubert »

kriro wrote: post #85
zhubert wrote: post #2

Good work on the new release. As a long time Scrivener 2 user, I'm happy to see this. However, I wanted a simpler and subjectively nicer looking tool for distraction-free writing and thus made my own. It's free, has a few social features built-in, tracks writing progress/goals/distractions, and can make good looking books. Also, adding features to Singular Writer has been really easy, as evidenced by it being in exis…

I'm 10k words into my little writing hobby and will try this. Imported two chapters and I like the simplicity and aesthetics a lot. Absolutely love setting X words and having it tracked...simple, intuitive, awesome. I'm slowly getting back into writing after a hiatus so I'm sitting at a measly 500 words/day goal :D My other authoring tool (Papyrus Autor) is great when it comes to Grammar/Spellchecking/Style and is pr…

10k! That's awesome. Keep going!

If it helps motivation, try inviting a few friends and sharing your word counts with them.

I spent two years working on my first book, barely hitting 5k/week during the first draft. My experience definitely affirms that as long as you don't stop, you'll finish it! ;)

Re: Introducing Scrivener 3

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Post by zhubert »

drcongo wrote: post #90
zhubert wrote: post #2

Good work on the new release. As a long time Scrivener 2 user, I'm happy to see this. However, I wanted a simpler and subjectively nicer looking tool for distraction-free writing and thus made my own. It's free, has a few social features built-in, tracks writing progress/goals/distractions, and can make good looking books. Also, adding features to Singular Writer has been really easy, as evidenced by it being in exis…

Thanks for this. My 9 year old daughter loves writing stories and is starting to get more serious about it, this looks like the perfect tool for her.

Hurray! That's fantastic!

Re: Introducing Scrivener 3

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Post by shock »

technofiend wrote: post #69

Before anyone says wouldn't it be great if there was a Linux version, Literature and Latte had one for more than a year. They discontinued it after less than 10 licenses sold. Perhaps that was because of the separate code base for each platform which meant in the previous versions the UI and feature set varied. L & L claim the Windows and MacOS versions will have the same UI but the fact version 3.x wasn't released f…

> They discontinued it after less than 10 licenses sold.

How do you know that? Can you share a link?

I don't think Scrivener for Linux was ever sold by Literature and Latte.

Lee Powell from Literature and Latte stated in a 2011 comment⁰ in Linux Journal: "We don't have the resources at this time to tweak it into a polished, native-feeling Linux application, and so it will continue to run as free beta software for the foreseeable future, until such time as we are able to give it the extra attention required to move it towards an official, commercial release"

The latest Linux version of Scrivener I can find is from October 2015 and is still a BETA – so from 2011—2015 Scrivener for Linux was always in beta and unsupported. The release announcement reads: Version 1.7.2.4 is identical to the current Linux 1.7.2.3 version, but with the beta expiry removed. Version 1.9.0.1 also has no expiry. Both versions remain unsupported.

I am asking you again to state your sources, and in the absence of that I'm gonna assume you're talking out of your ass.

⓪ - https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/scrivener-now-linux#com... ① - https://www.literatureandlatte.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33&...

Re: Introducing Scrivener 3

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Post by technofiend »

shock wrote: post #98
technofiend wrote: post #69

Before anyone says wouldn't it be great if there was a Linux version, Literature and Latte had one for more than a year. They discontinued it after less than 10 licenses sold. Perhaps that was because of the separate code base for each platform which meant in the previous versions the UI and feature set varied. L & L claim the Windows and MacOS versions will have the same UI but the fact version 3.x wasn't released f…

> They discontinued it after less than 10 licenses sold. How do you know that? Can you share a link? I don't think Scrivener for Linux was ever sold by Literature and Latte. Lee Powell from Literature and Latte stated in a 2011 comment⁰ in Linux Journal: "We don't have the resources at this time to tweak it into a polished, native-feeling Linux application, and so it will continue to run as free beta software for the…

But it's in your second link! They got less than a half dozen donations in two years. So you're right I misremembered their selling licenses. They asked for donations and got less than six in two years. Regardless the upshot is the same: they stopped development on the Linux version due to (IMHO) perceived lack of interest.

I was one of the people who purchased a Windows license as a thank you for the Linux Beta. I actually bought two: one for me and one for an aunt who kept threatening to write a book about her "traumatic" childhood. No one else in the family found it quite so traumatic as her and most of her trauma came from being exactly like her mother.

I bought the license for my aunt 50% as a "So shut up and write" prompt and 50% for hopefully therapeutic purposes. Give me your email address and I'll forward you the receipts lest you think I'm talking out my ass about that too.

>hannes81 wrote: Thank you very much! I have one question: Where can I donate for this version? Hannes

>>Thank you for the kind offer Hannes. I truly appreciate it, but it's on me. We did try a donation option in the Help menu of the previous Linux version, but had less than half-a-dozen donations over almost two years. Some users did however purchase a Windows license in appreciation, but we never pushed or had any expectation in this regard; and still do not...

The reply I quoted is signed "Lee" so I am assuming it's the same Lee Powell you quoted.

Re: Introducing Scrivener 3

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Post by technofiend »

pseingatl wrote: post #82
technofiend wrote: post #69

Before anyone says wouldn't it be great if there was a Linux version, Literature and Latte had one for more than a year. They discontinued it after less than 10 licenses sold. Perhaps that was because of the separate code base for each platform which meant in the previous versions the UI and feature set varied. L & L claim the Windows and MacOS versions will have the same UI but the fact version 3.x wasn't released f…

As far as I know, they never sold licenses for the Linux version. It was always in beta. In the forums, people offered to buy licenses--perhaps users of the Linux version bought a Mac or Windows license and told L&L, but I don't remember the Linux version ever being for sale.

Yeah see my other reply: they asked for donations but never received more than half a dozen over two years. I misremembered their selling it for linux. It was free and donation appreciated but not required.
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