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Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago

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Post by e9 »

ovao wrote: post #201
alrs wrote: post #189

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Compared to macadamia nuts and almonds, peanuts are absolutely candy. I don't eat them, at all.

I don’t quite follow. Peanuts and macadamia nuts have the same amount of sugar per one cup serving, so on what basis are you avoiding peanuts?

Peanuts are composed mostly of polyunsaturated fat (mostly omega 6 and very low omega 3) and macademia nuts are mostly monounsaturated fats. If you care about your omega 6 to omega 3 ratio in the diet then macademia nuts are probably better for you.

Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago

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Post by crx087 »

AmVess wrote: post #208
tigershark wrote: post #204

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You need to add sugar to contrast tomato acidity, it has nothing to do with sugar addiction. And it has been like this since forever, not only from the '70s. Source: even my grandmother added a pinch of sugar when cooking pasta sauce.

A very little bit of sugar that's in a pinch isn't any kind of a problem. Even a tbsp isn't that much. The problem is the massive amount they put in drinks of all types...and foods of all types. They even put it in bread for heck's sakes. In terms of taking the edge off of tomato sauce, shredded carrots works pretty well. I don't use sugar in any of my cooking, and no one has noticed.

Sugar in bread is so nasty to me. I can't stand to eat it, yet it's in almost every loaf on the shelf at a supermarket with 50 types.

Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago

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Post by lucaspiller »

DoodleBuggy wrote: post #2

Makes you wonder what we'll find out is being withheld right now, 50 years from now.

I wouldn't be surprised if evidence comes out that changes alcohol consumption drastically. Yes people have been drinking alcohol for centuries, but it was originally as a way to preserve calories, avoid drinking unsafe water, and as a crude medical treatment.

Today the main reason people drink is to get merry and drunk, and forget about life's problems. The alcohol we drink is (usually) no longer natural, it's processed and refined on an industrial level.

I'm sure everybody knows someone who was an alcoholic and the issues it caused them. On the other hand, it's common knowledge that smoking causes major health issues, yet people still do it...

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Post by richardknop »

Has it actually been proven that natural fats are bad for you? I always thought fat is healthier than sugar. Both sugar and fat are required part of healthy diet but I’d rather eat some pork sausage than ice cream or chocolate. It seems much healthier to me but I could be totally wrong and this is just some irrational belief I hold.

Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago

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Post by richardknop »

pygy_ wrote: post #45
losteric wrote: post #11

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A 12 oz can of Coca Cola has twice the sugar content of an apple, without the beneficial fiber or vitamins. How many Americans are obese because they eat too many fruits and vegetables? An overwhelming majority are obese due to fast foods, soda, snacks, and sweets... costing taxpayers millions of dollars while companies profit from the negative externality.

How is the food industry supposed to grow if we stop becoming more and more obese?

By focusing on healthy food with higher margin. That could cause people to eat less and be thinner and food companies would keep their revenues because margin would be higher (think free range eggs, chicken that lived outside in good conditions instead of horrible food factories where they are treated horribly).

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Post by zaarn »

toomanybeersies wrote: post #197
DonHopkins wrote: post #176

Happy Jax => Sugar Crisp => Super Sugar Crisp => Super Golden Crisp => Golden Crisp But it's still "Sugar Crisp" in Canada, where Sugar Bear still says "Can't get enough of that Sugar Crisp"! Do they have better truth in advertising laws there or something? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Crisp At the 1904 World Fair, the Quaker Oats Company made a candy-coated puffed cereal, a wheat-based product similar to Cra…

Breakfast cereal companies are borderline criminal. Most cereals are just straight sugar on some substrate. Even most muesli/granola is loaded with sugar, whether cane sugar, honey, or dried fruit.

Depends on the cereal.

The corn flakes I usually eat for breakfast have basically 0 nutritional value, I think the entire 1kg box contains about 800kJ, no sugar and the rest of that is then mostly air or filler.

Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago

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Post by zaarn »

crx087 wrote: post #213
AmVess wrote: post #208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A very little bit of sugar that's in a pinch isn't any kind of a problem. Even a tbsp isn't that much. The problem is the massive amount they put in drinks of all types...and foods of all types. They even put it in bread for heck's sakes. In terms of taking the edge off of tomato sauce, shredded carrots works pretty well. I don't use sugar in any of my cooking, and no one has noticed.

Sugar in bread is so nasty to me. I can't stand to eat it, yet it's in almost every loaf on the shelf at a supermarket with 50 types.

Even without sugar, bread contains a lot of carbohydrates that break down right into sugar just by coming into contact with the spit in your mouth.

If you think that's not true, simply take a sugar-low bread (check the food label, don't just go for organic/whole-grain, those usually have more sugar) and taste it for a while in your mouth. You'll notice it starts to become sweeter in your mouth.

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Post by pgsandstrom »

Fnoord wrote: post #84
tinha wrote: post #72

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There's a documentary on Netflix about this, I think it's called Sugar x Fat.

There's 2 good documentaries I remember about the subject (though there's likely many more): That Sugar Film [1] and Fed Up [2]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/That_Sugar_Film [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fed_Up_(film)

I dont know about Fed Up, but at the very least That Suger Film is very dishonest and not good science. Unfortunately the only good source I have is in swedish, but here it is: https://traningslara.se/hur-du-gor-en-storsaljande-men-usel-...
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