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To Save Net Neutrality, We Must Build Our Own Internet

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Re: To Save Net Neutrality, We Must Build Our Own Internet

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I would love to create my own neighborhood wired network, but up front cost would be a problem, and I don't think my neighbors care that much.

Definitely true. Supposedly Motherboard will be publishing some guides on this, so I'll have to wait and see how helpful those are.

I keep seeing stuff about using VPNs, but that be throttled easily. Wireless is just a mess and just that much more insecure/unreliable.

Re: To Save Net Neutrality, We Must Build Our Own Internet

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Decentralising the Internet is the only way we are going to be able to stop corporations from lobbying (aka bribing) the government to make decisions in their favour. Check out https://substratum.net/ - they have an idea to do just that. As our computers get more and more powerful then there is no reason why we cant distribute more of what forces the internet to be centralised, if no one controls it then it can be fr…

It would be really cool to see the rise of mesh networking from this + IOT.

I also like the idea of using IOTA for metering mesh networks.

Re: To Save Net Neutrality, We Must Build Our Own Internet

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Your solution needs to be refreshed with each election, we need a permanent solution that won't be reversed 2 years later.

Step 1: Try to convince the FCC to not vote to kill NN. Step 2: Call your members of Congress and tell them to enshrine NN into law. Step 3: Vote your Rep out next year if they refuse to do what you ask for. Step 4: Vote out the President in 2020 if he vetoes NN. Pretty straightforward, imho.

Trouble is, Ajit gets up there and talks about competition being good for the consumer, and then all the rightwingers echo that "Bigly". As wrong as this is, it will be hard to vote someone out if the facts are muddled.

Re: To Save Net Neutrality, We Must Build Our Own Internet

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No. To save the internet, we have to make the most gigantic stink the world has seen since the Trump election. The solution is not "give up and let this pass, and then quietly try to work around it." It's "make the people in power pay DEARLY for their transgressions."

Is Trump able to override the FCC? Talk about a clear route for easy "heroism"

He follows the money. No way.

Re: To Save Net Neutrality, We Must Build Our Own Internet

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Step 1: Try to convince the FCC to not vote to kill NN. Step 2: Call your members of Congress and tell them to enshrine NN into law. Step 3: Vote your Rep out next year if they refuse to do what you ask for. Step 4: Vote out the President in 2020 if he vetoes NN. Pretty straightforward, imho.

Trouble is, Ajit gets up there and talks about competition being good for the consumer, and then all the rightwingers echo that "Bigly". As wrong as this is, it will be hard to vote someone out if the facts are muddled.

I think this can easily be made a bipartisan issue, in that it's the common man vs. big, rich, controlling corporations. If I were the telecoms (and telecom lackeys), that's the movement I'd be scared of.

Re: To Save Net Neutrality, We Must Build Our Own Internet

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How about a decentralized internet software that works on local wifi and mesh networking and only needs to send its signals to the cloud when absolutely necessary? Watch this video to see what I mean: https://qbix.com/blog/index.php/2017/08/the-future-of-decent... And this architecture: https://github.com/Qbix/architecture/wiki/Internet-2.0

https://substratum.net/ << these are doing exactly that

Shill much? There are tons of projects like this doing the same thing and you've already plugged this once.

Re: To Save Net Neutrality, We Must Build Our Own Internet

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I have a proposition: You know how Tor works? Onion routing? Send traffic encrypted multiple times through a list of nodes before exiting at an edge? What if everyone sent their traffic back and forth to eachother. One hop, encrypted, and then forwarded. Just like Tor, but a single hop. Not anonymized, just peer-to-peer distributed. If everyone did that (build it into browsers) the internet would function _full-mesh_…

I guess they would put all P2P traffic on the low priority lane. Some part of the people would try the fast lane, because the slow one is too slow and they do not care enough about NN. In the end the P2P people would lose.

Re: To Save Net Neutrality, We Must Build Our Own Internet

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trouble is, Ajit gets up there and talks about competition being good for the consumer, and then all the rightwingers echo that "Bigly". As wrong as this is, it will be hard to vote someone out if the facts are muddled.

I think this can easily be made a bipartisan issue, in that it's the common man vs. big, rich, controlling corporations. If I were the telecoms (and telecom lackeys), that's the movement I'd be scared of.

I agree. It's a purely populist play, and we're in a populist mood as a country.
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