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I'm on the FCC. Please stop us from killing net neutrality

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Re: I'm on the FCC. Please stop us from killing net neutrality

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post #16

>Reach out to the rest of the FCC now. Tell them they can’t take away internet openness without a fight. How? As this article mentions, their comment system had issues (spam and DDoS) and the only other avenue I've seen is to beg our representatives (who aren't part of the December vote) to do _something_. It was a clean and concise piece, but I was hoping that an insider would provide a new course of action. I've se…

Call them. Write them. The internet comments don't really amount to much. But if you call or write, they will at least have a tally of how many complaints they've received. They may not see your complaint specifically but at least it counts, unlike internet complaints

Re: I'm on the FCC. Please stop us from killing net neutrality

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post #16

>Reach out to the rest of the FCC now. Tell them they can’t take away internet openness without a fight. How? As this article mentions, their comment system had issues (spam and DDoS) and the only other avenue I've seen is to beg our representatives (who aren't part of the December vote) to do _something_. It was a clean and concise piece, but I was hoping that an insider would provide a new course of action. I've se…

This may be about the Internet, but doing online "protest" will get us nowhere. Real protest means people going to the streets and making the government afraid of real violence. Other than that I don't see any way out.

Re: I'm on the FCC. Please stop us from killing net neutrality

#24
post #4

Would someone outline the pros and cons of the FCC vs FTC overseeing regulation of the internet?

You could make the valid argument that no matter how beneficial net neutrality may be it isn't within the regulatory authority of the FCC to define or enforce such according to the agency's definition per their charter. This is perhaps the best argument for killing net neutrality.

The common consideration is that killing net neutrality poses a direct and immediate harm to consumers of potential discriminatory practices from a small industry of commercial entities operating in a capacity similar to utility providers. That said it would fall squarely within the regulatory confines of the FTC.

I think something like net neutrality is important and necessary, but I also think there is something more immediately important. I want the FTC to regulate the online advertising industry. I am tired of slow websites even though I get 900mbps up and down at my house. I am also tired of the excessive spyware and occasional malware that comes from online ads. Online advertising really is most horrid part of any online experience.

Re: I'm on the FCC. Please stop us from killing net neutrality

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post #5

It’s amazing how the FCC can go against the American people when there is such overwhelming support for net neutrality.

> when there is such overwhelming support for net neutrality. I think you may be overestimating how representative technical communities are compared to the general public, as well as overestimating how universally people even in technical communities agree about this. (I also think that even with widespread agreement that wouldn't necessarily be enough, but I don't necessarily think that widespread agreement exists,…

Here's a poll of the general population. It's overwhelming.

https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/06/06/new-mozilla-poll-am...

Re: I'm on the FCC. Please stop us from killing net neutrality

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In Switzerland, any legislative action can be put on the ballot with enough signatures. Citizens can actually block what the Federal Assembly does. In the US, we get to comment on it. And they get to say "That's nice."

No, actually. If comments are largely against what a regulatory body is proposing to do, it can be used in court against the regulatory body in court to block the action. That just very, very rarely happens. When captured, regulatory agencies tend not to try to pass measures that very obviously go against public opinion, or are too complex to arise public wrath. This is a special situation that's only happening due to arrogance of the Trump administration, and the fact that he simply does not care about appealing to voters outside his base.

If and When this passes, it will be immediately challenged in court, and this will be one of the things brought against the FCC. That's why the FCC conspired with ISPs to flood their own public opinion pages with comments from ISPs several months ago.

Again though, this is all not normal. Its a damn important thing to remember in Alabama and in 2018, however.

What I haven't been able to find any good articles on, however, is how strong those safeguards actually are.

Re: I'm on the FCC. Please stop us from killing net neutrality

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mob support for NN does not justify it. There's a reason we let domain experts make technical decisions.

...And you believe that's what is happening with this decision?

Well, people who are anti-NN would never voice their opinion in this climate. They will get downvoted to hell.

Re: I'm on the FCC. Please stop us from killing net neutrality

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What indication is there that the current FCC would ever change course, no matter how loudly the constituents complained? Is the only goal of all the current outcry simply awareness?

There's value in taking away a tyrant's velvet glove, if you'll pardon me the hyperbole. Don't let them hide behind doublespeak about how this is what people really want and it's just a few malcontents making noise. Make it very, very abundantly clear that they're ignoring the desires of the people they claim to represent. It may not change anything now, but it gets the attention of on-the-fence voters and unites and galvanizes the opposition.

Re: I'm on the FCC. Please stop us from killing net neutrality

#29
post #16

>Reach out to the rest of the FCC now. Tell them they can’t take away internet openness without a fight. How? As this article mentions, their comment system had issues (spam and DDoS) and the only other avenue I've seen is to beg our representatives (who aren't part of the December vote) to do _something_. It was a clean and concise piece, but I was hoping that an insider would provide a new course of action. I've se…

Email: https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/7ev42z/justin_tr...

Re: I'm on the FCC. Please stop us from killing net neutrality

#30
post #5

It’s amazing how the FCC can go against the American people when there is such overwhelming support for net neutrality.

Mob support for NN does not justify it. There's a reason we let domain experts make technical decisions.

Domain experts are overwhelmingly in favor of NN.
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