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Re: Introducing Scrivener 3

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Post by zhubert »

joelrunyon wrote: post #49
zhubert wrote: post #2

Good work on the new release. As a long time Scrivener 2 user, I'm happy to see this. However, I wanted a simpler and subjectively nicer looking tool for distraction-free writing and thus made my own. It's free, has a few social features built-in, tracks writing progress/goals/distractions, and can make good looking books. Also, adding features to Singular Writer has been really easy, as evidenced by it being in exis…

Question - If it's free how do you plan to sustain it. I hate seeing people struggle to support their app. Even the Ulysses guys got blowback when they went from one-time payment to a subscription model - which seems totally warranted from a power user.

Great question.

Right now it's super lean and I haven't needed any additional income to support it. In the future that might change.

If I were to charge for anything, it'd be paid "themes" for the eBook side of things. I feel that aligns with my objective of making a writing tool for everyone, while getting paid by people making money off it.

Re: Introducing Scrivener 3

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Post by Analemma_ »

zhubert wrote: post #2

Good work on the new release. As a long time Scrivener 2 user, I'm happy to see this. However, I wanted a simpler and subjectively nicer looking tool for distraction-free writing and thus made my own. It's free, has a few social features built-in, tracks writing progress/goals/distractions, and can make good looking books. Also, adding features to Singular Writer has been really easy, as evidenced by it being in exis…

I like this! As a not-very-serious writer, I had previously been doing my writing with VSCode plus a couple of extensions and themes to make it look like Ulysses, but I think I will give this a look. I'd be happy to chip in some money if you put a donation link up.

Re: Introducing Scrivener 3

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Post by zhubert »

kemayo wrote: post #47
zhubert wrote: post #2

Good work on the new release. As a long time Scrivener 2 user, I'm happy to see this. However, I wanted a simpler and subjectively nicer looking tool for distraction-free writing and thus made my own. It's free, has a few social features built-in, tracks writing progress/goals/distractions, and can make good looking books. Also, adding features to Singular Writer has been really easy, as evidenced by it being in exis…

Curious whether you have any plans for an iOS app accompanying this? My partner uses Scrivener for writing currently, but does a lot of it on their iPad, so Scrivener's app + Dropbox sync is a fairly important thing for them. (Scrivener's Dropbox sync being frequently buggy may help explain why I'm asking about this for them...)

That definitely sounds frustrating. Personally I don't like how intrusive it is, always blocking the loading of the app while it shows me the sync process.

iOS (like desktop Linux and Android) are entirely possible and would be fun to build. The underlying data storage is platform agnostic (hurray SQL) and the development environment is bifurcated only along desktop vs native lines.

Re: Introducing Scrivener 3

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Post by egypturnash »

mattlondon wrote: post #24

Introducing...V3 of what, exactly? Hmm - am I blind, or does that page have zero explanation of what Scrivener 3 actually is ? RSS Reader? Ebook reader? The list of improvements could apply to just so many random things. I am sure it is great and all, and that there is more details elsewhere on the site, but you lost me after a scroll or two trying to work out what this product is, and if it something that I might wa…

Yeah, that's definitely a page written for people who already know what Scrivener is and will have their ears perk up at the mention of the long-awaited V2.

Scrivener is a word processor specialized for long-form writing.

It lets you easily write a big piece of text in smaller chunks (chapters, paragraphs, whatever works for you), keep reference material handy, and compile it into the kinds of formats a professional writer is likely to need for passing their text on to the next stage in the publishing process.

Broadly, you can think of it as "an IDE for people who write prose, not code".

Re: Introducing Scrivener 3

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Post by zhubert »

Analemma_ wrote: post #52
zhubert wrote: post #2

Good work on the new release. As a long time Scrivener 2 user, I'm happy to see this. However, I wanted a simpler and subjectively nicer looking tool for distraction-free writing and thus made my own. It's free, has a few social features built-in, tracks writing progress/goals/distractions, and can make good looking books. Also, adding features to Singular Writer has been really easy, as evidenced by it being in exis…

I like this! As a not-very-serious writer, I had previously been doing my writing with VSCode plus a couple of extensions and themes to make it look like Ulysses, but I think I will give this a look. I'd be happy to chip in some money if you put a donation link up.

How very nice of you to offer!

In lieu of donations to Singular Writer, may I suggest a non-profit, perhaps No Kid Hungry (www.nokidhungry.org)?

Re: Introducing Scrivener 3

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Post by anigbrowl »

rayalez wrote: post #50
anigbrowl wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd like to support a new project by a fellow HN user. What's your main difference (present or intended) from Gingko?

Thanks! Nulis is open source, allows you to edit all the cards simultaneously(instead of double-click/esc to jump between editing modes), has writing stats(to develop daily writing habit), and allows you to save trees offline. I'm also working on a desktop version that will share the code with online version, so that will be convenient to use and develop.

I noticed the desktop version, and that it's cross-platform. That could be super-cool for security sensitive stuff/remote location work.

I'm making a bunch of workflow changes these days so I'll try a small project in this to see how it goes. thanks very much for the suggestions and the work you've done on this already.

Re: Introducing Scrivener 3

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Post by rayalez »

anigbrowl wrote: post #56
rayalez wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks! Nulis is open source, allows you to edit all the cards simultaneously(instead of double-click/esc to jump between editing modes), has writing stats(to develop daily writing habit), and allows you to save trees offline. I'm also working on a desktop version that will share the code with online version, so that will be convenient to use and develop.

I noticed the desktop version, and that it's cross-platform. That could be super-cool for security sensitive stuff/remote location work. I'm making a bunch of workflow changes these days so I'll try a small project in this to see how it goes. thanks very much for the suggestions and the work you've done on this already.

I hope you will find Nulis useful! =)

To be fair, I should mention that gingko's author is also working on a desktop version [1]. He's rewriting it from scratch, and it looks like it will be very cool once he does.

[1] https://beta.gingko.io

Re: Introducing Scrivener 3

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Post by ken »

hitekker wrote: post #20

It's a terrible shame that Scrivener 3 drops support for El Capitan. I want to try but upgrading my entire OS would be quite a hassle.

With my user hat on, I agree. My main workstation is still going strong with 10.11 (the latest it officially supports), and there's no end-user features of >10.11 that I want (maybe APFS). Or even of newer hardware.

With my developer hat on, I completely understand where they're coming from. Sierra adds a ton of useful new functionality, and fixes a ton of bugs. (There's several new features in 10.11 which just seem completely broken for any non-trivial use, and which were fixed in 10.12.) Not needing to support 10.11 makes life a lot easier.

If I weren't using 10.11 myself, I'd make my application 10.12-only in a heartbeat.

Re: Introducing Scrivener 3

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Post by satysin »

abtinf wrote: post #31

Anyone used scrivener and found it a useful tool for general note taking, a personal wiki, or getting things done? From the website, it looks like many of their features would be useful as a general work support tool, despite the emphasis on writing.

I use it for daily journaling, writing articles, etc. As well as for writing terrible short stories :)

It is quite a versatile bit of writing software. Stable and I've never lost any data. Lots of features (perhaps too many sometimes) and it is well designed imho. I've only used the Windows version though and from what I've seen the macOS version is a slightly different product (please correct me if I'm wrong).

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