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SF tourists: "I will never step foot in San Francisco again"

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Re: SF tourists: "I will never step foot in San Francisco again"

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post #3

Regarding the quote in the title: Don't leave $8,000 dollars worth of stuff in your car? I enjoy Oakland and SF because you do have to keep your wits about you. If I left my backpack in my car and someone smashed my window to grab it I would blame myself.

You enjoy SF/Oakland because you have to worry about your things being stolen?

Re: SF tourists: "I will never step foot in San Francisco again"

#22
Previously: https://justink.svbtle.com/open-letter-to-mayor-ed-lee-and-g...

Justin Svbtle caught a lot of flak for the insensitive tone of his open letter back when he wrote it, but he was rightfully pissed off at the time, and it seems the problem has only gotten worse.

How is it possible that there aren't enough resources to take care of everyone in a city that generates so much wealth?

Re: SF tourists: "I will never step foot in San Francisco again"

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post #20

>She’s still staying in a shelter at night and still panhandling during the day with her daughter, who’s now 5 months old and has her first tooth. Police officers walking past stopped at the alarming sight, but couldn’t do much other than buy her diapers and formula. >Doudney said her shelter stay ends Dec. 12, at which point she plans to visit her mom in Nebraska and then maybe take a road trip. She said she’s think…

If the woman is staying in a shelter and panhandling, then she probably can't afford to just go back home, regardless of her want of taking a road trip and going back to school. It's also just as likely that she won't be able to visit her mother in Nebraska because she won't have the money for it and will just be on the street with her baby daughter (likely the only reason she was able to get into the shelter in the…

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Re: SF tourists: "I will never step foot in San Francisco again"

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>She’s still staying in a shelter at night and still panhandling during the day with her daughter, who’s now 5 months old and has her first tooth. Police officers walking past stopped at the alarming sight, but couldn’t do much other than buy her diapers and formula. >Doudney said her shelter stay ends Dec. 12, at which point she plans to visit her mom in Nebraska and then maybe take a road trip. She said she’s think…

You might consider that the “plan to visit her Mom” ignores the fact that Mom has had enough of her shit and booted her out six months ago, and she isn’t welcomed back until she completes rehab/takes her meds/quits being a general disruption to life.

You also seem to be under the impression that you’re dealing with a reasonable person. People end up in the street for a lot of reasons, but good decision-making usually isn’t one of them. Or, hell, her Mom could be dead for all we know.

In summary, when you ask “WTF is wrong with you?” remember that there might be a solid answer to what you thought was a bit rhetorical.

Re: SF tourists: "I will never step foot in San Francisco again"

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post #2

Really feels like we need a tough mayor to come down on this crap. As someone from a working class sicilian family living in the city since the late 1800s things these days are unbelievable. I don't understand how the city could have grown so expensive yet appear to have no desire to properly police the streets. Blatant drug use/sales and dirt bike groups breaking every law imaginable are just a small example of what…

I agree we need more Koch/Giuliani and less Dinkins.

I think the police would like to be able to tackle public nuisance issues but the BoS are more about satisfying their little pet projects and focused constituencies at the expense of the citizenry at large.

It took years upon years and utter persistence from neighborhood groups and business groups to finally get the police to act on the vagrancy on Height street. It was what religious people might call a miracle that anything happened at all.

Part of the problem might be that many families leave the city once their kids reach school age and so their potential pressure on the BoS leaves with them and DINKs don't have as much interest, less motivated and more idealistic. Parents are less likely to put up with bullshit but the city is to far gone for many to stay and put up a fight, so special interests take over.

Re: SF tourists: "I will never step foot in San Francisco again"

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post #22

Previously: https://justink.svbtle.com/open-letter-to-mayor-ed-lee-and-g... Justin Svbtle caught a lot of flak for the insensitive tone of his open letter back when he wrote it, but he was rightfully pissed off at the time, and it seems the problem has only gotten worse. How is it possible that there aren't enough resources to take care of everyone in a city that generates so much wealth?

Yes I did take flak... And death threats and people Tweeting my phone number and address. I do regret some of my wording and insensative tone. I wrote it quickly and emotionally out of frustration never expecting more than a handful of people to see it.

At any rate, I'm leaving SF next month for much greeener pastures. Nashville, TN. I just can't deal with SF absurdity, hypocrisy, and the lack of accountability and action anymore.

Re: SF tourists: "I will never step foot in San Francisco again"

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>She’s still staying in a shelter at night and still panhandling during the day with her daughter, who’s now 5 months old and has her first tooth. Police officers walking past stopped at the alarming sight, but couldn’t do much other than buy her diapers and formula. >Doudney said her shelter stay ends Dec. 12, at which point she plans to visit her mom in Nebraska and then maybe take a road trip. She said she’s think…

"These people?" Meaning who? Homeless people? Mothers?

It's awfully easy to judge somebody's life from the comments section on HN. Much harder to actually try and understand it or empathize. I don't think you're giving this woman a fair shake.

Re: SF tourists: "I will never step foot in San Francisco again"

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But how many of those places are big cities? I would never stuff $8000 of equipment unattended in Chicago, Detroit, Washington DC, New York City, or San Francisco. Hell, I rarely drive in cities for that reason alone. Some cars get broken into for no reason (probably guys looking for valuables). My preference is to park outside the city (any city) in a safer area, and then take the subway in.

New York is the only one I'd feel comfortable in of the ones you've listed. Others are Seattle, Austin.

Austin is full. Go away.

;)

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