Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago

Post by abiox » Wed, Nov 22, 2017, 10:35 PM UTC

sddfd wrote: post #15

losteric wrote: post #11

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A 12 oz can of Coca Cola has twice the sugar content of an apple, without the beneficial fiber or vitamins. How many Americans are obese because they eat too many fruits and vegetables? An overwhelming majority are obese due to fast foods, soda, snacks, and sweets... costing taxpayers millions of dollars while companies profit from the negative externality.

I absolutely share your viewpoint. As a consumer, I try to think about the ingredients of a product: if it is mostly chemicals (in contrast do agricultural products), then the product probably isn't healthy.

Post by StillBored » Wed, Nov 22, 2017, 10:36 PM UTC

ythn wrote: post #91

QAPereo wrote: post #37

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Common factor: Money to be made. Tobacco was the core of many states' economies, and still remains a massive industry which makes many people wealthy. Dealing with CO2 emissions would have required dealing with fossil fuel use... and that's tons of money and power in play there. Sugar is, at the very least, another substance people crave, and has been making people rich for hundreds of years. Delaying tactics are fea…

> The key is that you have to not give a shit about anyone other than yourself This is actually quite difficult. Despite its shortcomings (and perhaps ironically) religion can be effective at convincing people to put others first but I would say the default behavior in most people is "I only care about myself and family first". This default behavior is exacerbated when people follow the influence of greed, lust, etc.

Post by JAFTEM » Wed, Nov 22, 2017, 10:44 PM UTC

jmurinello wrote: post #94

JAFTEM wrote: post #89

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One could instead use fats for fuel by cycling in and out of ketosis. After the body adapts, sugar and carb cravings subside.

I would like to see more researches on ketosis diet. Seen by medicine as something that occurs when in starvation, I see it as the natural state of the human body. I eat once a day and I don't feel like I'm starving. And when I eat I don't feast.

Post by DougWebb » Wed, Nov 22, 2017, 10:51 PM UTC

mikenew wrote: post #82

sddfd wrote: post #13

This doesn't surprise me at all. It took almost 40 years to prove that smoking causes lung cancer. Similarly, despite unambiguous scientific evidence, it still seems acceptable to deny that man-made CO2 release into the atmosphere causes global warming. There's actually a good book covering these two instances and others: "Merchants of Doubt: How a Handful of Scientists Obscured the Truth on Issues from Tobacco Smoke…

You have to wonder how many people died because of that. Maybe this is nieve, but it feels like there should be harsh punishment for suppressing or manipulating information that can prevent or lead to people’s death.

Post by ceejayoz » Wed, Nov 22, 2017, 10:54 PM UTC

mikenew wrote: post #82

sddfd wrote: post #13

This doesn't surprise me at all. It took almost 40 years to prove that smoking causes lung cancer. Similarly, despite unambiguous scientific evidence, it still seems acceptable to deny that man-made CO2 release into the atmosphere causes global warming. There's actually a good book covering these two instances and others: "Merchants of Doubt: How a Handful of Scientists Obscured the Truth on Issues from Tobacco Smoke…

You have to wonder how many people died because of that. Maybe this is nieve, but it feels like there should be harsh punishment for suppressing or manipulating information that can prevent or lead to people’s death.