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An Open Letter to the FCC

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Re: An Open Letter to the FCC

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Post by erikpukinskis »

dragonwriter wrote: post #168
erikpukinskis wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whenever I see one of these “parties purport to disagree on this issue, but neither is actually for it” I wonder if it would be a good keystone for a new moderate party, built on consensus. The idea being, taking a principled stance on the aspects of those issues on which there is consensus, while not taking a stance on the part which does not have agreement, would expose the other parties as frauds and give you a rh…

> Whenever I see one of these “parties purport to disagree on this issue, but neither is actually for it” The parties don't purport to disagree on the issue; one party paints it as a point of disagreement, but even that is just using the term as a coded reference to a real disagreement on race policy, not a reference to a disagreement on the policy suggested by what the words otherwise seem to mean. > I wonder if sta…

Yes, agreed on all points. I'm just saying that "whole new issue" would take the wind out of the fake talking points version of the "states rights" debate, and draw some of those voters.

Re: An Open Letter to the FCC

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Post by saladeen »

albinofrenchy wrote: post #141
saladeen wrote: post #136

Man, reddit's frontpage was almost 100% links to battleforthenet.com today. I'd like to point out something not widely mentioned: battleforthenet is ran by org called 'Fight for the Future'; they are funded by Open Society Initiative, which is George Soros's organization. As soon as I see his name involved, I assume that a) the appearance of a 'grassroot movement' is completely fake and just part of his playbook, and…

The George Soros demonization is one of the odder things I've seen lately. This isn't some psyops nonsense. Net neutrality isn't some George Soros conspiracy meant to cripple capitalism while making him rich.

George Soros needs no demonization.

Re: An Open Letter to the FCC

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Post by perseusprime11 »

albinofrenchy wrote: post #142
perseusprime11 wrote: post #43

To play devil’s advocate, are we really ready for Internet to be regulated like a public utility? Like water, we will need to pay more the more we consume. You and I can pay but what about poor people? Will this discourage Internet usage?

Net neutrality isn't about paying more for consuming more. It is like needing to upgrade your water plan to make coffee as opposed to tea; unless you brew with starbucks or something.

I am talking about treating it like a public utility which is what Tom Wheeler did under Obama.

Re: An Open Letter to the FCC

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Post by bigphishy »

saladeen wrote: post #136

Man, reddit's frontpage was almost 100% links to battleforthenet.com today. I'd like to point out something not widely mentioned: battleforthenet is ran by org called 'Fight for the Future'; they are funded by Open Society Initiative, which is George Soros's organization. As soon as I see his name involved, I assume that a) the appearance of a 'grassroot movement' is completely fake and just part of his playbook, and…

Hey I couoldn't find any citation or reference. Could you please find a citation for that claim.. it is very fishy.

Re: An Open Letter to the FCC

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Post by batmansmk »

TheRealPomax wrote: post #147
batmansmk wrote: post #108

If you are ready to steal identities at large scale, don't you think you are capable of faking logs, bribing judges and do whatever you want as well? It's funny to see how trustful we are in America that the rules will save us all from people not playing by the same rules. Changing the referee is the real solution right? Impeachment should be the focus.

No, I don't. Do you? If so, you might need to read up on the slippery slope fallacy.

I never heard of slippery slope fallacy before, but I read the wikipedia page about it. Thanks for the info! But I miss where it applies to the reasoning I shared. Maybe you can help me.

Do we really believe key people at FCC are persuaded to support the people with this decision? That is just a matter of showing the truth about those comments? I think it is just a farce and we are wasting our time and energy opposing the FCC. The bigger problem is the constant attack against our democratic process.

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Post by sverige »

jedberg wrote: post #139
ghrifter wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The FCC has effectively ignored the rules and stalled their way to victory. Nawh, they are following the power delegation given to them by congress. They dont have to do fuck all for public comments, other then recieve them, document them, and say "we got feedback but fuck yall we going forward"

> They dont have to do fuck all for public comments That's not true. As a nonpartisan federal agency, the must show how they accounted for public comment and why the choice they made is either in line with the public comments or why it is justified to not be in line. They have to do more than just accept the comments. But by allowing all the fake comments, they were able to say "see everyone wants this, what we are d…

Actually, it appears that many of the fake comments are in favor of net neutrality. Or at least the comments originating from overseas. (Russian domains are top of the list.)

http://www.emprata.com/reports/fcc-restoring-internet-freedo...

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Post by [deleted] »

creaghpatr wrote: post #16
0xB31B1B wrote: post #8

More and more we see state agencies standing up to regime change in Washington (ex: CA and environmental regulations). Regardless of your personal politics, I wonder how this dynamic will affect democracy in the US.

Well up until election 2016, Democrats were vehemently opposed to states authority, and concentrated far more power in Washington during the Obama administration. It's nice to see them coming around.

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Re: An Open Letter to the FCC

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Post by weirdstuff »

user-on1 wrote: post #134

Seems like america is going to loose its freedom until next president ALREADY LOST - to pick a internet plan of their choice which is affordable and reliable to them. ALREADY LOST - to have privacy. LOOSING - what people will watch in their internet, so basically you will be target fed specific info and some info you will never come across leading to people will be kept in dark like the sugar news forever. if we were…

I don't think it matters much who occupies the oval office. I fear the U.S. is in a systematic regression due to deeper economic issues that so far are being totally unaddressed and unidentified in public.

I hope other nations can begin exerting pressure on this country so that we are forced to begin considering substantial reforms (apparently a long-lived fiscal crisis isn't enough); otherwise these issues may worsen and spread elsewhere as they have already begun doing.

(Divest away from U.S. securities, for example. Challenge the status of U.S. dollar.)

Re: An Open Letter to the FCC

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Post by gibybo »

hysan wrote: post #69

I'm one of the people who has had part of their identity used to submit false comments. Found out when a journalist emailed me asking me to do a survey and some additional comments months ago. I proceeded to sign up for an API key[1] to confirm what was being claimed and turns out, it was true. The API is a bit limited, but I was also able to do searches using the falsely submitted comment to find others like it as w…

>when they try to do everything in their power and play by the rules

Playing by the rules is not always the best way to serve the public interest.

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