You could lump in San Jose in this story as well. It amazes me that well meaning residents and leaders of the bay area have completely ignored the social problems that engulf the region.
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#12> “We went to the museum immediately and reported it. Their response was, ‘This happens all the time.’ They didn’t even come down to look, nothing,” Donoghue said. Why would they expect museum staff to look at the scene of a crime?
It happened on their property.
It actually didn’t - the parking lot was Parks property.
These kinds of bureaucratic neighbors that are functionally incapable of working together to solve crimes can be pretty funny when they build large signs just to let you know the fault is with the other Department.
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#13You could lump in San Jose in this story as well. It amazes me that well meaning residents and leaders of the bay area have completely ignored the social problems that engulf the region.
San Jose downtown is in complete shambles. It is honestly very scary because many people walk buy threatening you and offer weed directly.
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#14>She’s still staying in a shelter at night and still panhandling during the day with her daughter, who’s now 5 months old and has her first tooth. Police officers walking past stopped at the alarming sight, but couldn’t do much other than buy her diapers and formula.
>Doudney said her shelter stay ends Dec. 12, at which point she plans to visit her mom in Nebraska and then maybe take a road trip. She said she’s thinking of going to school to study early childhood psychology.
You have a mom you can stay with in Nebraska but instead choose to panhandle with a newborn in SF? There's no reasoning with these people! This is not only idiotic but definitely child endangerment.
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#15Regarding the quote in the title: Don't leave $8,000 dollars worth of stuff in your car? I enjoy Oakland and SF because you do have to keep your wits about you. If I left my backpack in my car and someone smashed my window to grab it I would blame myself.
There are plenty of places in the US where I can comfortably leave $8,000 of camera equipment in my van. SF isn't one of them.
But how many of those places are big cities?
I would never stuff $8000 of equipment unattended in Chicago, Detroit, Washington DC, New York City, or San Francisco.
Hell, I rarely drive in cities for that reason alone. Some cars get broken into for no reason (probably guys looking for valuables). My preference is to park outside the city (any city) in a safer area, and then take the subway in.
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are plenty of places in the US where I can comfortably leave $8,000 of camera equipment in my van. SF isn't one of them.
But how many of those places are big cities? I would never stuff $8000 of equipment unattended in Chicago, Detroit, Washington DC, New York City, or San Francisco. Hell, I rarely drive in cities for that reason alone. Some cars get broken into for no reason (probably guys looking for valuables). My preference is to park outside the city (any city) in a safer area, and then take the subway in.
New York is the only one I'd feel comfortable in of the ones you've listed. Others are Seattle, Austin.
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#17Really feels like we need a tough mayor to come down on this crap. As someone from a working class sicilian family living in the city since the late 1800s things these days are unbelievable. I don't understand how the city could have grown so expensive yet appear to have no desire to properly police the streets. Blatant drug use/sales and dirt bike groups breaking every law imaginable are just a small example of what…
These are all my personal opinions. There is lack of law and consequences for bad behavior. It comes from leaders that are afraid of extreme liberal backlash and outrage. Unfortunately, I'd even say there is a disdain for police officers in SF. That has to be an incredibly hard and frustrating job. I've been in SF for over 5 years, but enough is enough and I moving out next month for Nashville, Tennessee. Downtown SF…
Can you expanded on why Nashville? I have heard this exact same scenario 3 times in the last month on HN. Super curious, thanks.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
But how many of those places are big cities? I would never stuff $8000 of equipment unattended in Chicago, Detroit, Washington DC, New York City, or San Francisco. Hell, I rarely drive in cities for that reason alone. Some cars get broken into for no reason (probably guys looking for valuables). My preference is to park outside the city (any city) in a safer area, and then take the subway in.
New York is the only one I'd feel comfortable in of the ones you've listed. Others are Seattle, Austin.
>Seattle
I'd rethink that. We're blessed with relatively low violet crime numbers, but property crime is pretty high. We take it as a given that our car will be broken into every once in awhile living here.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
These are all my personal opinions. There is lack of law and consequences for bad behavior. It comes from leaders that are afraid of extreme liberal backlash and outrage. Unfortunately, I'd even say there is a disdain for police officers in SF. That has to be an incredibly hard and frustrating job. I've been in SF for over 5 years, but enough is enough and I moving out next month for Nashville, Tennessee. Downtown SF…
Can you expanded on why Nashville? I have heard this exact same scenario 3 times in the last month on HN. Super curious, thanks.
You sure it wasn't me? :-) From another one of my comments.
> Nashville is growing and expanding like crazy. I believe it is in the top 10 fastest growing US cities and it is VERY business friendly (no state income tax) and has favorable small business conditions. While Nashville is certainly a music city, the business environment continues to improve.
> Ready to settle and slow life down. I absolutely love music (played drums and piano) and really enjoy the amazing live music scene in Nashville. I also found that people are super friendly, charming, and ultra polite in Nashville. That southern charm is real.
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#20>She’s still staying in a shelter at night and still panhandling during the day with her daughter, who’s now 5 months old and has her first tooth. Police officers walking past stopped at the alarming sight, but couldn’t do much other than buy her diapers and formula. >Doudney said her shelter stay ends Dec. 12, at which point she plans to visit her mom in Nebraska and then maybe take a road trip. She said she’s think…
If the woman is staying in a shelter and panhandling, then she probably can't afford to just go back home, regardless of her want of taking a road trip and going back to school. It's also just as likely that she won't be able to visit her mother in Nebraska because she won't have the money for it and will just be on the street with her baby daughter (likely the only reason she was able to get into the shelter in the first place). If she can't physically go to Nebraska to being her daughter, how would you propose she get her daughter to Nebraska?
Beyond that, take a step back and realize that a good portion of the homeless people in SF have mental health and drug abuse issues and so, yes, it's not really possible to reason with them, but not because they are unreasonable, but because they often times aren't able to reason in the same way. It's better to direct your anger at a city that takes in high taxes through sales tax and property tax but can't seemingly help with this issue (through whatever means that would be, like affordable housing or better outreach).