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Google Kills Wave

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Re: Google Kills Wave

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post #3

They blew it big time by hyping it for RPGs, which never went anywhere. Get the RPGers on board, perhaps, and you can succeed.

They blew it by making it confusing to understand what you'd use it for, making it confusing to know which of your friends had accounts (no integration with gmail!) and confusing to know when someone sent you a new "wave" (no integration with gmail!).

Re: Google Kills Wave

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Wave has not seen the user adoption we would have liked.

Did Google believe that this was going to succeed as a consumer product, à la Facebook?

Wave, as it exists today, is a great tool for corporate communications. With the right interfaces, integration, and extensions it could definitely displace Exchange and Lotus Notes. Eventually, as a protocol, it had the potential to transcend email.

Maybe Google just hoped Wave would appeal to a different market than it really does.

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PS #1: I'm sure that corporate uptake of Wave in its current form was limited as well because of the absence of a reasonable client/server that you could run on your own network.

PS #2: Hopefully there are enough of us who like the protocol that, over a number of years, we can build Apache Foundation-quality F/OSS implementations of the needed components.

PS #3: It would be truly ironic if, say in 10 years time, Google finally integrated the Wave Protocol with Gmail because there had been enough private (but federated) uptake as an email replacement.

Re: Google Kills Wave

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post #5

I, for one, am very dissapointed by this. Even worse I feel somehow partially responsible. I have been a huge proponent of Wave in theory, but even after getting into the early beta I just never found myself /using/ it. I blame this mainly on it lacking the social graph I cared about.. But I thought I could just bide my time and in 5 years it would have taken over. I am starting to feel like I will have to deal with…

I blame it on never understanding the UI, the way it did things, or its usefulness. It's like a chat you can't delete things from, and everyone sees what you type and all your mistakes? And you can post pictures?

I just don't get it.

Re: Google Kills Wave

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Is this the same thing as Buzz?

If I want to 'connect' with friends, I have Facebook, and if I want to im work colleagues, I have Yahoo and MSN.

For document collaboration I have email for non-realtime, Google Docs for near and actual real-time.

I have a hard time seeing where my workflow needs any more collaboration tools.

Re: Google Kills Wave

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The idea is excellent, the fail is the lack of 'product'. They should distribute Wave modules that every wordpress or phpbb user can install on their blogs and hook into their own communities... and then Wave will take off.

Re: Google Kills Wave

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post #9

unfortunate. it was a good product, for the right market, but it was overhyped and it underdelivered.

And what was the market, exactly?

Seems to me that not a single person I knew actually wanted to use it, or thought it filled a niche they needed filling.

Re: Google Kills Wave

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post #12

Wave has not seen the user adoption we would have liked. Did Google believe that this was going to succeed as a consumer product, à la Facebook? Wave, as it exists today, is a great tool for corporate communications. With the right interfaces, integration, and extensions it could definitely displace Exchange and Lotus Notes. Eventually, as a protocol, it had the potential to transcend email. Maybe Google just hoped W…

Too bad you could never run it inside the firewall AFAIK.

Re: Google Kills Wave

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post #15
post #4

I feel bad for the Etherpad guys, who as I understand it, sold AppJet to Google to work on Google Wave: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=977015

I still miss etherpad. I use some of the alternatives, but it's not the same :( alternatives: http://etherpad.org/etherpadsites.html

Google docs is very similar to what etherpad used to be. All be it far less user friendly you can watch others edit and update in real time.
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