Apple scientists disclose self-driving car research
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#2I wonder if companies, like Apple, will segment their tech stack to extract areas where one could argue that it’s not ethical to have an intellectual advantage. Perhaps pedestrian detection is one such area.
If two autonomous car companies are competing, it makes sense to fight on many feature sets. It feels wrong to compete on “ability to detect a bike rider.”
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#3I wonder if companies, like Apple, will segment their tech stack to extract areas where one could argue that it’s not ethical to have an intellectual advantage. Perhaps pedestrian detection is one such area. If two autonomous car companies are competing, it makes sense to fight on many feature sets. It feels wrong to compete on “ability to detect a bike rider.”
I like the idea of this, from a practical point of view maybe the first step is sharing datasets ...
Re: Apple scientists disclose self-driving car research
#4I wonder if companies, like Apple, will segment their tech stack to extract areas where one could argue that it’s not ethical to have an intellectual advantage. Perhaps pedestrian detection is one such area. If two autonomous car companies are competing, it makes sense to fight on many feature sets. It feels wrong to compete on “ability to detect a bike rider.”
I like the idea of this, from a practical point of view maybe the first step is sharing datasets ...
I agree with the sentiment, but the details will contain fractal devils. The most unusual pedestrians contain the most important learning experiences, but are also the most significant from a privacy perspective.
Edit: or, to put it another way, you don’t want to find out the hard way your machine vision system just mistook a drunk furry thalidomide victim for a wild coyote, but they might not be too thrilled to be on a database of “freaky humans”.
Re: Apple scientists disclose self-driving car research
#5I wonder if companies, like Apple, will segment their tech stack to extract areas where one could argue that it’s not ethical to have an intellectual advantage. Perhaps pedestrian detection is one such area. If two autonomous car companies are competing, it makes sense to fight on many feature sets. It feels wrong to compete on “ability to detect a bike rider.”
This is an interesting point. It's in every self-driving vehicle company's best interest to gain public trust in the industry as a whole. A high pedestrian injury/fatality rate from Google's self-driving tech reduces confidence in Apple's tech and the entire idea of self-driving vehicles. The incentives are there for these companies to work together to create highly reliable self-driving tech.
Re: Apple scientists disclose self-driving car research
#6I wonder if companies, like Apple, will segment their tech stack to extract areas where one could argue that it’s not ethical to have an intellectual advantage. Perhaps pedestrian detection is one such area. If two autonomous car companies are competing, it makes sense to fight on many feature sets. It feels wrong to compete on “ability to detect a bike rider.”
I would expect Volvo to do something like that, and repeat what they once did with the seat belt.
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#7> region proposal network (RPN)
sorry RPN is already taken !
Re: Apple scientists disclose self-driving car research
#8Every paper that comes out of Apple gets disproportionate coverage! If nothing, their secrecy is helping in generating good publicity.
Re: Apple scientists disclose self-driving car research
#9I wonder if companies, like Apple, will segment their tech stack to extract areas where one could argue that it’s not ethical to have an intellectual advantage. Perhaps pedestrian detection is one such area. If two autonomous car companies are competing, it makes sense to fight on many feature sets. It feels wrong to compete on “ability to detect a bike rider.”
Historically competition has been one of the best ways to foster innovation, and as a society achieving a good "ability to detect bikers" is probably something we want in an automatic car.
However, it is relatively wasteful since many resources need to be allocated to do the same thing several times. Alternatives could be : 1) deals between companies to not innovate in those specific areas, 2) a workgroup formed by companies working together on that subject 3) a government program to research that specific area.
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
I like the idea of this, from a practical point of view maybe the first step is sharing datasets ...
I agree with the sentiment, but the details will contain fractal devils. The most unusual pedestrians contain the most important learning experiences, but are also the most significant from a privacy perspective. Edit: or, to put it another way, you don’t want to find out the hard way your machine vision system just mistook a drunk furry thalidomide victim for a wild coyote, but they might not be too thrilled to be o…
Google shared some of their oddities in the past: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hsr3Fzi5clw (Including a lady in a motorized wheelchair chasing a duck with a broom?)
Legally, if you can see it from a car on a public road their is minimal expectations of privacy.