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Ketamine lifts rodents' mood only if administered by male researchers

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Re: Ketamine lifts rodents' mood only if administered by male researchers

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It's not, I feel the same way, but it's hard to be intellectually honest. I will be a vegetarian soon I think, it's been getting harder and harder to manage the dissonance since I got a dog.

It’s funny; that’s never a problem with a cat since they’re natural hunters and carnivores.

Dogs are natural hunters and carnivores, too. I don't see how they are different from cats.

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This reminds me of Feynman's story of the researcher who eliminated possible variables in rat experiments one by one, to find a surprising result (EDIT: To find that rats didn't need smell, spatial relationships, taste, or vision to find the cheese - the sound of the floor was enough) https://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2014/02/the_rat_experi...

I suppose humans tend to underuse, or undertrain, their senses, so we fail to consider the possibility that other animals might be taking advantage of their senses in different ways. In elementary school, I used to listen to the sounds of people’s pencils scratching on the desk, and could accurately determine what they were writing, especially if my head was near the desk and I knew what their handwriting looked like…

The force is strong with you

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It’s funny; that’s never a problem with a cat since they’re natural hunters and carnivores.

Dogs are natural hunters and carnivores, too. I don't see how they are different from cats.

Because household dogs don’t retain that behavior in the same way cats do.

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But this doesn't make sense. Gender is a social construct.

yes it is, and in this case I think we're probably still figuring out the actual cause But one assumes that in this case the cause might be that the pheromones that people all hopped up on testosterone give off is different those given off by people who aren't .... those people would likely be cis-males, trans-males who've transitioned, trans-females who haven't transitioned, and some trans people who are currently t…

What if it's just plain old XX vs XY chromosomes?

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But this doesn't make sense. Gender is a social construct.

yes it is, and in this case I think we're probably still figuring out the actual cause But one assumes that in this case the cause might be that the pheromones that people all hopped up on testosterone give off is different those given off by people who aren't .... those people would likely be cis-males, trans-males who've transitioned, trans-females who haven't transitioned, and some trans people who are currently t…

if that is true, then being a different gender is something that is 'teachable', and not at least part 'innate', i.e. biological preposition for trait and behaviors that are predetermined in early pre-birth, and/or early childhood, and not imprinted by society/media/etc...

aka, by now, we'd have the "gay cure"......

if you believe that there is a predisposition of some individuals to act to have gender specific behaviour (girls acting as girls, boys as boys, or girls as boys, or boys as girls, aka trans), then you believe feeling 'trans' is not a choice, but acting on it it is, and to me the "feeling" part of it, is part of the gender.

If you believe gender is a complete social construct then you can say being trans, gay, etc.. what you attracted to, and what you want to be is a choice as well.... and that can be changed, aka.. the 'gay cure' people were sent to hospitals for in the 50s and 60s.

And here where it baffles me. Some of this feminist/transhuman thinking, have more in common with ultra conservative thinking then actual true progressive thinking/values and are not rooted in reality.

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You said "haven't been there for years" which means you came from 4chan. So does your behavior, pretending you don't know the word "trap" or purposefully mis-gendering is an insult to transgender people. That bullshit doesn't play here. You still haven't asked any questions worth answering. https://www.glaad.org/reference/transgender >Defamatory Language >Defamatory: "deceptive," "fooling," "pretending," "posing," "t…

>pretending you don't know the word "trap" I'm not pretending to not know the word; it made sense on sight to me as "someone who fools you". Easiest term around. And that is clearly a concept of its own not a synonym for transsexuals , hence my confusion when a poster gets flagged for an affront to them. You have actually been helpful now though, despite thinking you're slamdunking me. Passing is a bad word now too?…

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Re: Ketamine lifts rodents' mood only if administered by male researchers

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This reminds me of Feynman's story of the researcher who eliminated possible variables in rat experiments one by one, to find a surprising result (EDIT: To find that rats didn't need smell, spatial relationships, taste, or vision to find the cheese - the sound of the floor was enough) https://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2014/02/the_rat_experi...

I suppose humans tend to underuse, or undertrain, their senses, so we fail to consider the possibility that other animals might be taking advantage of their senses in different ways. In elementary school, I used to listen to the sounds of people’s pencils scratching on the desk, and could accurately determine what they were writing, especially if my head was near the desk and I knew what their handwriting looked like…

That's amazing. What about chalkboard writing? I imagine that would be louder, have more protracted strokes and the patterns could become more easily absorbed through watching the board.

I should add though, that "clean your room" would be a pretty safe bet in most parent/child relationships.

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Your questions aren't worthy of answers. Go back to 4chan, please.

>still acting like I 'come from' 4chan It must be great having cheap stock answers for everything. Flippant as I am, I was honestly curious about how you and another poster took the word "trap" as an insult to transsexuals. To me traps were a separate concept to transsexuals, a trap is something any man could be at any point in time. Forget the question about how you know Simon_says so well.

"Trap" hasn't had a negative meaning tied to it in our past circles (chans/Rizon), where I think it might have originated.

If someone didn't see it through that lens I could sympathize being offended by it, but even then I'd personally take it as a compliment as being "passable" ~

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