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Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

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Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

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Post by anigbrowl »

ian0 wrote: post #197
harry8 wrote: post #106

Every day we see more evidence that boards of directors and senior management should be personally accountable financially and with respect to their liberty for the company they are managing or overseeing doing foul things that they ought to have known. The "I didn't know, I just took a vast salary to play golf" argument should not be any kind of defence. If there is the real prospect of going to jail, golfers will r…

How to implement though? You cant just give Jail-time for data breeches. It would encourage cover ups and scape goats. Also never underestimate just how disorganised large organisations are, incompetence at addressing issues is systemic and goes far beyond data protection. What seems like malice is sometimes just plain stupidity. It has to be backed by some sort of regulatory framework. Just like a fire code or emplo…

You cant just give Jail-time for data breeches. It would encourage cover ups and scape goats.

WEll that's already happening without jail time so maybe give it a whirl. LEt's get real here, the idea of suits going to jail is just scary to some people but it'll be fine.

Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

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Post by drawnwren »

knowaveragejoe wrote: post #274
drawnwren wrote: post #265

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is conservative media berating Musk? I thought progressive media was souring on him?

Indeed they are: https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/11/breitbart-other-cons...

Interesting. Thanks for the source.

Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

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Post by paul7986 »

linkregister wrote: post #71
rlabrecque wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I deactivated my account it was a huge pain, I had to reply to 2 emails, and in the end it took 5 days to complete. That alone annoyed me enough to never go back.

The current deletion process is smooth and can be completed in-app.

Wasn't like that when Uber let my account get hacked and 1k was stolen from me. When that happened I went searching for answers and found UBer blaming it's users for their lack of security. Further I immediately wanted to cancel my account .. chop off it's head/the source but had to wait days for Uber to delete my account.

They are worst then Comcast and sorry need burn through all their VC money til they are ashes! Loathe Uber so much!

Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

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Post by nova22033 »

chakalakasp wrote: post #170

Man, I don't know if Uber is evil or if most tech companies are evil and Uber just doesn't drop the kind of money on PR strategery that an evil company need to drop in order to seem normal. But either way, holy cow does that company come off as toxic. They've completely revolutionized the drive-for-hire industry and all anyone ever hears about it what a D-bag their CEO is or how toxic and mysogonist their work enviro…

>to spy on their employees and customers

To be fair, they weren't spying on their customers. They were fingerprinting phones which is against the Apple ToS.

Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

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Post by anigbrowl »

briandear wrote: post #199
HenryBemis wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What? Uber acted in an unethical manner? Seriously, is anyone surprised? I kinda hope (but not really) that they get hacked again in June 2018 and play the same trick.. us in the EU will have a party on Uber's corpse over GDPR.

And then we can go back to getting ripped off by taxis. I’ve lost more money in taxi rip offs than I ever spent on Uber. Other than the sexist nonsense of the CEO, there really is an irrational hatred of Uber. Are many of us secretly moonlighting as cab drivers? Uber’s nonsense is minuscule compared to generations of taxi corruption. This isn’t me excusing Uber but it does seem like many people, especially Europeans…

I feel like I've read almost this exact same post from you the last time Uber was in hot water. 'But what about the taxis' isn't a good defence, it's called a tu quoque fallacy and it ignores the existence of other competitors like Lyft and others who would surely fill the market gap if Uber were to disappear.

It's a really crappy and obvious distraction tactic, made worse by the addition of cliched libertarian sighs.

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Post by tedunangst »

bogomipz wrote: post #259
tedunangst wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who needs to approve it? How would you know they didn't?

Generally your finance department needs approve purchases beyond a certain dollar amount. This is pretty standard stuff. If they got it approved as such don't you think the CEO would have been informed that there was line item from Security for ransom? The article states the CEO didn't find out about the hack until a month after.

I doubt the CEO of Uber is informed of every $100K transaction.

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Post by whatshisface »

krelian wrote: post #277
chakalakasp wrote: post #170

Man, I don't know if Uber is evil or if most tech companies are evil and Uber just doesn't drop the kind of money on PR strategery that an evil company need to drop in order to seem normal. But either way, holy cow does that company come off as toxic. They've completely revolutionized the drive-for-hire industry and all anyone ever hears about it what a D-bag their CEO is or how toxic and mysogonist their work enviro…

Uber is like the Donald Trump of corporations. It sets new ground in how openly vile you can be without any consequences. Just like Donald Trump the real danger is not in Uber itself but in whatever it will be that uses it as a role model.

I'm not sure if that's an accurate analogy. Few politicians would want to find themselves working in the climate Trump has found in Washington, (if anything, he has proven that a groundswell of popular support can't unseat a party establishment). Also, it simply would be inaccurate to describe Uber's actions as impotent.

Edit: allow me to replace the word "found" with "created." I was just using a figure of speech.

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Post by kenbaylor »

asabjorn wrote: post #113
shallot_router wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not related to this particular breach, but given this and Uber's other issues, it's not out of the realm of possibility that at some point they had a more serious breach involving loss of password hashes or interception of credentials at login. (But in all likelihood the poster's account was just compromised through the usual means, otherwise there would be more reports of hacked accounts.)

The article states that this disclosure came out of an board commissioned investigation into the activities of Sullivan’s security team. Do you think that other more serious breaches discovered by this investigation is hidden, or is this more of a general sentiment around how you perceive Uber?

Oh there's more. Much more.

Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

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Post by obmelvin »

nova22033 wrote: post #284
chakalakasp wrote: post #170

Man, I don't know if Uber is evil or if most tech companies are evil and Uber just doesn't drop the kind of money on PR strategery that an evil company need to drop in order to seem normal. But either way, holy cow does that company come off as toxic. They've completely revolutionized the drive-for-hire industry and all anyone ever hears about it what a D-bag their CEO is or how toxic and mysogonist their work enviro…

>to spy on their employees and customers To be fair, they weren't spying on their customers. They were fingerprinting phones which is against the Apple ToS.

In that case, yes. But they were definitely spying on journalists, law enforcement and other potentially critical users
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