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Re: Choosing New York over San Francisco

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Post by ww520 » Wed, Aug 04, 2010, 4:27 PM UTC

risotto wrote: post #18

ardit33 wrote: post #13

I think one major argument that he didn't mention is that NYC beats SF hands down in the 'getting laid' department. If you are young and your idea of having a good time is going out, partying until 4am, and getting laid often, then you should stay in NYC. If you a super hipster, social outcast and/or into weird stuff, then come to SF. Your friends are already here.

It's shocking to me how few women there are in SF. The east coast is crawling with good looking, single young women. Most of them are really nice normal women with family oriented goals. Then NYC is full of wild girls that like to dress up, go out and have fun. LA is great in this regard too. Sure there are plenty of women in SF, but a good share of them are alt, hipster, vegan, etc. Nice enough still, but then the c…

There are plenty of men in SF if that suits you.

Re: Choosing New York over San Francisco

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Post by lotusleaf1987 » Wed, Aug 04, 2010, 4:32 PM UTC

endtime wrote: post #11

cageface wrote: post #3

Another common gripe about California that I'll echo here: there's no weather! It may sound masochistic but I miss the seasons, the snow, wearing a scarf, sheltering inside with a cold nose and hands with something warm. The passing of the seasons gives life a constant pulse and direction. The eternal summers of CA get to be disorienting after a while.

That may be true of LA, but the Bay Area has seasons - two of them. Summer and Rainy.

Only if you live in Daly City.

Re: Choosing New York over San Francisco

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Post by gaustin » Wed, Aug 04, 2010, 4:36 PM UTC

marcusbooster wrote: post #19

I've lived in a number of cities and surprisingly the Internet looks the same in all of them.

I agree.

The internet is the same here in Helena, MT as it is in any other city or town on the planet. Sure, the connection speeds leave a bit to be desired and there's little startup community. But there are exceedingly few places that have a quality of life to match it, especially if you are into trail running and mountain biking.

Maybe it'll be a bit harder to startup here. Maybe I'll end up moving if I create a startup with legs, or after I completely trash my body running ultras.

I've made my choice. I hope everyone else does too.

Re: Choosing New York over San Francisco

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Post by jim_h » Wed, Aug 04, 2010, 4:37 PM UTC

cageface wrote: post #3

Another common gripe about California that I'll echo here: there's no weather! It may sound masochistic but I miss the seasons, the snow, wearing a scarf, sheltering inside with a cold nose and hands with something warm. The passing of the seasons gives life a constant pulse and direction. The eternal summers of CA get to be disorienting after a while.

When it's really hot in NYC, it's really bad. This summer has had lots of >90f humid days and there are still many more hot days to go until Autumn. Except for the hot NYC summers, I do enjoy the seasons.

Re: Choosing New York over San Francisco

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Post by cb33 » Wed, Aug 04, 2010, 4:39 PM UTC

Palo Alto is "socially dead"?

Re: Choosing New York over San Francisco

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Post by kingkawn » Wed, Aug 04, 2010, 4:42 PM UTC

ww520 wrote: post #21

risotto wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's shocking to me how few women there are in SF. The east coast is crawling with good looking, single young women. Most of them are really nice normal women with family oriented goals. Then NYC is full of wild girls that like to dress up, go out and have fun. LA is great in this regard too. Sure there are plenty of women in SF, but a good share of them are alt, hipster, vegan, etc. Nice enough still, but then the c…

There are plenty of men in SF if that suits you.

why would people vote this comment down?

Re: Choosing New York over San Francisco

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Post by davidw » Wed, Aug 04, 2010, 4:43 PM UTC

biggitybones wrote: post #8

mkelly wrote: post #2

Well said. The point that Wall Street != New York is particularly important here, w.r.t Antonio's post. I've only been here a year, but I know New York is big , and it is not homogeneous. I don't think Antonio ever realized that. Also, kudos to blip.tv. I had a chance to meet a few of the blip kids a few months ago and you guys were really cool.

Seconded. I rarely interact with those types, and I work for a major consulting company in the city. There are multiple ways to avoid that crowd, starting with staying out of Murray Hill. The thing I love about New York is the inherent challenge. You're among some of the most competitive people in the world who love nothing more than to squash your idea. And if you manage to convince those people or rise from their n…

> The thing I love about New York is the inherent challenge. You're among some of the most competitive people in the world who love nothing more than to squash your idea. And if you manage to convince those people or rise from their negativity, you know you're onto something.

So you're saying that if you have the ability to make it there, the probability of making it in other locations is high?

Re: Choosing New York over San Francisco

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Post by the_pretender » Wed, Aug 04, 2010, 4:44 PM UTC

ardit33 wrote: post #13

I think one major argument that he didn't mention is that NYC beats SF hands down in the 'getting laid' department. If you are young and your idea of having a good time is going out, partying until 4am, and getting laid often, then you should stay in NYC. If you a super hipster, social outcast and/or into weird stuff, then come to SF. Your friends are already here.

There's a reason why San Jose is considered Man Jose.

Re: Choosing New York over San Francisco

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Post by jonknee » Wed, Aug 04, 2010, 4:46 PM UTC

> Given the lifestyle in the City, products are much closer to the pavement and are a solution to a real-world problem from Day 1. Not some social network plaything.

Humorous considering it's hosted by Tumblr, a social plaything based out of NYC. Foursquare is another that comes into mind as a questionably "real-world problem" solver social network plaything that came out of NYC.

Re: Choosing New York over San Francisco

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Post by lr » Wed, Aug 04, 2010, 4:49 PM UTC

I agree with the (title of the) post very much, but one major point I would like to make is: Mountain View != San Francisco! I find it very misleading when people talk about San Francisco (usually in a negative light) and what they are really talking about are the suburbs of SF. Please stop doing that. That would be like saying NYC is boring because you are actually talking about Yonkers.