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Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by giobox »

k6hkUZtLUM wrote: post #26
FreakyT wrote: post #13

It's definitely neat, but I feel like this has been done before without success -- examples like the Motorola Atrix, Windows Continuum, and even the cancelled Ubuntu Phone come to mind. (And, going further back in time, let's not forget the Palm Foleo!) It seems like a neat idea on the surface though, so I wonder why as a concept the phone-connected-to-desktop-peripherals thing hasn't gained more traction. My suspici…

I loved the palm foleo - it was such a revolution. Great keyboard, many hours of battery, and all my info there with my palm tungsten!

I recall vaguely the Foleo was famously cancelled without ever actually shipping to any customers. Not much of a revolution, by any standard, and not one many of us are going to share in reminiscing over!

> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/09/18/palm_foleo_laptop_u...

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Foleo

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by BinaryIdiot »

FreakyT wrote: post #13

It's definitely neat, but I feel like this has been done before without success -- examples like the Motorola Atrix, Windows Continuum, and even the cancelled Ubuntu Phone come to mind. (And, going further back in time, let's not forget the Palm Foleo!) It seems like a neat idea on the surface though, so I wonder why as a concept the phone-connected-to-desktop-peripherals thing hasn't gained more traction. My suspici…

See, I've never gotten a chance to use it before but I've heard great things with how well Windows Continuum performed and worked overall. One person told me it was like being on their desktop for basic things. It's hard to compare much with Continuum since it was essentially killed with the Windows Phone.

It's a neat idea, ultimately, but I think we're a few years away from a good way to do it UX wise.

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by pls2halp »

CardenB wrote: post #117
nkristoffersen wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This might not be the right crowd, but iCloud is really the un-clunky storage accessible from everywhere. It's just so well integrated between the phone, macbook, ipad, web. Worth it. I spend like $9-10 per month for 2TB of storage. with auto sync of my photos (which is where it really shines)

Yeah he's literally described iCloud. Even though it's moved into some dropbox competitor, that's really the secondary usecase for it.

The thing is I find my iCloud files are forming a canonical documents folder across my devices, whereas I always felt Dropbox was distinct from my documents folder.

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by hoistbypetard »

Theodores wrote: post #115
JeffreyKaine wrote: post #30

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I bet this would be great for an operations, sales, support or any pother non technical role. The company would only have to buy docs and monitors and then the workforce can just swap out their mobile devices from meeting room to desk etc... I see a large enterprise or student play here if they have the vision to market it.

Not really. I thought that Chromecast would become a thing in meeting rooms. You could just beam your laptop or phone up onto the big screen. Who needs more than a browser? But no, it has not happened. We still fumble over connectors. Given my failed ability to get anyone interested in going Chromecast I doubt I could persuade anyone to get DeX sorted for the meeting rooms.

Over the past 3 years or so, I’ve seen Apple TVs attached to projectors in many conference rooms. People who want to present from a Windows machine do the cable dance still, but those who want to present from an iPhone, iPad or Mac just connect over AirPlay and go. I’ve started saving presentations to my OneDrive and using PowerPoint from my phone to display them, even when I have my laptop with me.

Re: Samsung DeX

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FreakyT wrote: post #13

It's definitely neat, but I feel like this has been done before without success -- examples like the Motorola Atrix, Windows Continuum, and even the cancelled Ubuntu Phone come to mind. (And, going further back in time, let's not forget the Palm Foleo!) It seems like a neat idea on the surface though, so I wonder why as a concept the phone-connected-to-desktop-peripherals thing hasn't gained more traction. My suspici…

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Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by pdsouza »

If you think this is cool, check out Maru, an open-source project that turns your phone into a PC: https://maruos.com/#/

Maru has stable builds available for the Nexus 5 and 7 right now and we have some early builds for newer devices like the HTC 10 on the way. We are always looking for contributors to improve and help port Maru to the latest devices so please stop by our Github if you're interested!

https://github.com/maruos/maruos

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by StudentStuff »

bigiain wrote: post #41
anilshanbhag wrote: post #27

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I don't think the price comparison is fair. If someone spends 700$ on a phone, he would be ok spending 200$ if the system does work smoothly. What I think people are more skeptic about is performance and user experience.

Except most people don't think of themselves as "someone who spends $700 on a phone", they pay $x9.95/month for $y00 minutes talktime plus $zGB of data and they get a "free" phone every two years... I doubt any of those people would think it's a good idea to spend an extra ~$15/month for a thing that lets them plug a screen/keyboard/mouse into their "free" phone.

No this model is dead. They pay $x0/month for unlimited everything (with X gigs of high speed data) and then another $20 or $30 a month for the equipment lease or installment plan. The 2 year contract is dead, and we got something worse to replace it.

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by throw2016 »

cbhl wrote: post #22
FreakyT wrote: post #13

It's definitely neat, but I feel like this has been done before without success -- examples like the Motorola Atrix, Windows Continuum, and even the cancelled Ubuntu Phone come to mind. (And, going further back in time, let's not forget the Palm Foleo!) It seems like a neat idea on the surface though, so I wonder why as a concept the phone-connected-to-desktop-peripherals thing hasn't gained more traction. My suspici…

I think the biggest problem is the price point. The person who most wants to use their phone as a PC is the person who can't afford spending $4000 on the entire suite of Apple devices. That person probably also can't afford a $100 dock (let alone a $300 one) for their phone. When someone makes a USB-C/Thunderbolt/Intel/Windows device that is phone sized but runs legacy Windows applications (like MS Paint and Quickboo…

The Huawei Mate has the same feature and uses a normal hdmi connector. Infact I recollect seeing a youtube video[1] and there is probably a thread on xda [2] that got Samsung Dex working with a normal usb-c to hdmi connector.

It's a useful feature and because we already have too many devices finds little use but once its seamless it could offer many possibilities.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s50GWuKphTI

[2] https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/dex-unexpe...

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by saagarjha »

joenathanone wrote: post #103
synicalx wrote: post #92

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I'm curious, how are finding performance for basic stuff like web browsing? Real bummer to hear about the RDP app, that was a big incentive for me, but it's no use if it won't go full screen

It's pretty performant but once you start to really multitask, you can tell you're running with limited resources. If you aren't a heavy multitasker, performance is great! The one place it really exceeds the desktop is answering calls and responding to text, puts Google Voice and Skype to shame.

Interesting…have you tried the features in Windows and macOS which allow you to pick up phone calls/texts with your computer? If so, how does it compare?

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by mark_l_watson »

harryf wrote: post #86
cbhl wrote: post #22

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I think the biggest problem is the price point. The person who most wants to use their phone as a PC is the person who can't afford spending $4000 on the entire suite of Apple devices. That person probably also can't afford a $100 dock (let alone a $300 one) for their phone. When someone makes a USB-C/Thunderbolt/Intel/Windows device that is phone sized but runs legacy Windows applications (like MS Paint and Quickboo…

> The person who most wants to use their phone as a PC is the person who can't afford spending $4000 on the entire suite of Apple devices. I'd love to have just one computing device that covers everything for the sake of simplicity. At times I've found myself carrying a smartphone, laptop, tablet and a smart watch, plus ton of cables and adapters... almost 10 pounds or 5kg of electronics just to cover all my use case…

I have the same sentiment and when more apps run in the cloud, and all one needs is a fast web browser, that will make it more of a possibility to do coding, digital media editing, etc. from anywhere with available peripherals.

The entire home wall video monitor in the beginning of the movie Total Recall (first version) would be great to have everywhere. Just as you change music you could make your environment look like anything and this same technology would let you grab a little near by space to use as a screen. Too expensive now but in ten years, perhaps.

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