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Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by Kipters »

mcshicks wrote: post #39
koverda wrote: post #7

I've already replaced my desktop with a laptop, looking forward to the day I can consolidate everything onto one device. This looks like a step in the right direction.

It would be more compelling to me if they could also dock it into a laptop shell with USB and Ethernet ports. If I'm going someplace for more than a day I'm going to bring my laptop, I don't want to lug around a monitor. It doesn't really replace my laptop, it only replaces my docking station.

Like the Lapdock for the HP Elite x3?

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by brandon272 »

askafriend wrote: post #20

I don't think this is something that people actually want or have real painful need for today. If you already have a big monitor like that then you probably already have a desktop computer. If you don't, then you probably already have a laptop. If you have neither, then I doubt you're the type of user who's going to get this today and a monitor to go along with it because your needs are probably already filled by an…

I would never use this myself.

But, the older people I know have PCs that sit around collecting dust and that they are not at all comfortable in using. But they do have phones that they use every day to communicate via text messaging, email and Facebook.

This seems like a good solution to bridge the gap for them on the occasions where they are interested in a desktop experience as it provides a familiar environment using the phone OS and removes the worry about managing or navigating a desktop environment.

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by danjoc »

>blah blah did it first

Tablets had been done before without success, then Apple released the iPad. You don't have to be first to market to win. The failure of others in the same segment is not a predictor of future failure.

Execution is everything.

I was already doing this in 2013 with a Nexus 5. I had a wireless mouse, wireless keyboard, wireless display connection, wireless charging, and Linux for Android running Ubuntu. It was terrible, because all the wireless things created lag, it was like screen sharing on a bad connection with someone in Asia. I bought a slimport cable and it was still terrible. USB 2.0 simply didn't have the bandwidth to push FHD display resolution without artifacts.

I see USB-C in the bottom of that stand. If that's USB-C 3.1 gen2 then it has 10GBps and enough bandwidth to push 4K at a decent refresh rate. I see the potential to have a wired keyboard and mouse using the monitor as a USB hub. This is already a much better solution than has been offered before by other companies.

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by ianburrell »

cbhl wrote: post #22
FreakyT wrote: post #13

It's definitely neat, but I feel like this has been done before without success -- examples like the Motorola Atrix, Windows Continuum, and even the cancelled Ubuntu Phone come to mind. (And, going further back in time, let's not forget the Palm Foleo!) It seems like a neat idea on the surface though, so I wonder why as a concept the phone-connected-to-desktop-peripherals thing hasn't gained more traction. My suspici…

I think the biggest problem is the price point. The person who most wants to use their phone as a PC is the person who can't afford spending $4000 on the entire suite of Apple devices. That person probably also can't afford a $100 dock (let alone a $300 one) for their phone. When someone makes a USB-C/Thunderbolt/Intel/Windows device that is phone sized but runs legacy Windows applications (like MS Paint and Quickboo…

The competition for phone dock is from cheap laptop or desktop. Also, phone dock requires monitor and keyboard which is extra expense. Most people would choose laptop before full desk setup. There are also all-in-one computers and compute sticks that provide cheap alternatives for someone who wants simple or portable.

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by milkytron »

stormbrew wrote: post #53

I've decided that this avenue to integration isn't really what I want. I'm not super interested in a big screen connected to a phone that can barely drive it and a solid game. But I do really really want to simplify my life in terms of identity and storage. I'd like to simply have the same view of data on all my devices, with probably my phone acting as a central source of truth in terms of identity and carrying arou…

> I'd like to simply have the same view of data on all my devices, with probably my phone acting as a central source of truth in terms of identity and carrying around a hot cache of important data. But I don't just mean using dropbox everywhere.

Would a NAS from Synology or QNAP offer what you're looking for?

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by dekobon »

artursapek wrote: post #2

How long until I'm able to have my Ubuntu environment on a phone and plug it directly into my monitor, keyboard, and mouse? We already have the OS and peripherals, what's missing? It's not storage on the phone; Apple is selling 256GB iPhones. Is it the processing power?

Samsung is trying to figure out the market interest on running Ubuntu directly on the phone. I saw it working at a convention and they directed me to sign up here to beta: https://seap.samsung.com/linux-on-galaxy

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by spike021 »

numbsafari wrote: post #38
askafriend wrote: post #20

I don't think this is something that people actually want or have real painful need for today. If you already have a big monitor like that then you probably already have a desktop computer. If you don't, then you probably already have a laptop. If you have neither, then I doubt you're the type of user who's going to get this today and a monitor to go along with it because your needs are probably already filled by an…

I would love this. I’m sick of lugging a heavy aluminum notebook around. I want to drop my phone into a cradle or have it wirelessly connect to a KVM setup so I can launch into a desktop session for running tmux and a browser. Wish this worked with iOS.

Many of the newer laptops aren't very heavy at all. My Macbook Air is aluminum and can fit in a small backpack/messenger bag.

Unless you just want to not be carrying anything.

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by pa7ch »

stormbrew wrote: post #53

I've decided that this avenue to integration isn't really what I want. I'm not super interested in a big screen connected to a phone that can barely drive it and a solid game. But I do really really want to simplify my life in terms of identity and storage. I'd like to simply have the same view of data on all my devices, with probably my phone acting as a central source of truth in terms of identity and carrying arou…

You might be interested in upspin.io. It's by some of the people involved in plan9 and/or Go.

It's an ambitious project because ultimately you need to coerce all the apps with valuable data to export to or be compatible with upspin to realize the dream, so to speak.

However right now I've already found it useful for storing my personal files and media and I've enjoyed reading the codebase.

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by RussianCow »

brandon272 wrote: post #72
askafriend wrote: post #20

I don't think this is something that people actually want or have real painful need for today. If you already have a big monitor like that then you probably already have a desktop computer. If you don't, then you probably already have a laptop. If you have neither, then I doubt you're the type of user who's going to get this today and a monitor to go along with it because your needs are probably already filled by an…

I would never use this myself. But, the older people I know have PCs that sit around collecting dust and that they are not at all comfortable in using . But they do have phones that they use every day to communicate via text messaging, email and Facebook. This seems like a good solution to bridge the gap for them on the occasions where they are interested in a desktop experience as it provides a familiar environment…

In my experience, those people don't need or care for the "desktop experience"; they are perfectly content using their iPad (or other tablet) as-is, or at most, using a Bluetooth keyboard if they do a lot of typing.
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