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Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by bigiain »

anilshanbhag wrote: post #27
cbhl wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the biggest problem is the price point. The person who most wants to use their phone as a PC is the person who can't afford spending $4000 on the entire suite of Apple devices. That person probably also can't afford a $100 dock (let alone a $300 one) for their phone. When someone makes a USB-C/Thunderbolt/Intel/Windows device that is phone sized but runs legacy Windows applications (like MS Paint and Quickboo…

I don't think the price comparison is fair. If someone spends 700$ on a phone, he would be ok spending 200$ if the system does work smoothly. What I think people are more skeptic about is performance and user experience.

Except most people don't think of themselves as "someone who spends $700 on a phone", they pay $x9.95/month for $y00 minutes talktime plus $zGB of data and they get a "free" phone every two years... I doubt any of those people would think it's a good idea to spend an extra ~$15/month for a thing that lets them plug a screen/keyboard/mouse into their "free" phone.

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by anilshanbhag »

orbitingpluto wrote: post #31
anilshanbhag wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think the price comparison is fair. If someone spends 700$ on a phone, he would be ok spending 200$ if the system does work smoothly. What I think people are more skeptic about is performance and user experience.

Are you forgetting that most people get their phones with their plans? People will feel that they can absorb $20 or even $30 extra per month on their plan for a top tier phone. Absorbing any hit over $200 when someone lives hand to mouth makes these a non-starter. The best chance for mass success for this option is for it to be included in the base purchase.

Well there is nothing preventing Dex from coming with a monthly plan. Note that all plans are very low interest rate loans, there is nothing special about a phone plan.

Also, majority of people just use email and word suite. An S9 is easily capable of doing these tasks and it saves the individual or company cost of a cpu box (400 USD at the low end).

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by lotyrin »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #36

That bezel-free desktop display in the first image, is that a real Samsung product?

Looks like the LC27F591FDNXZA to me, but that the compositing of the desktop image has cheated a bit to make it seem like there's just a bit less dead space than there truly is.

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by edvinbesic »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #36

That bezel-free desktop display in the first image, is that a real Samsung product?

I would love to know as well, seems like some post processing in general though as the UI appears to be extremely smooth, almost unbelievably so.

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by revelation »

ksk wrote: post #28
revelation wrote: post #18

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For all of 5 minutes until it's thermally throttled. They never tell you that on the "GeekBench". But yes, for those 5 minutes, it has somewhat the same performance as one of the eight processors on the 1800x. Frankly, 1/8th 1800x and a whole A11 is about the same power budget, so that's not entirely surprising.

Yeah, also even if you could get rid of the thermal throttling, you're still dumping all that heat into the phone's body which could overheat/damage other components.

Most notably you're dumping it into the battery, which is already heating up itself just fine having to supply the extra current for your full CPU power burst. And sustained high temperatures are a surefire way to rapidly diminish the capacity of LiIon batteries. So I guess it's a good thing they have external power and a fan, even though it's dubious how much that does given the battery isn't seeing any of that airflow and is in the usual protective sleeve that doesn't exactly help thermal conductivity.

There is a reason Tesla watercool every individual metal 18650 cell.

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by bigiain »

JeffreyKaine wrote: post #30
askafriend wrote: post #20

I don't think this is something that people actually want or have real painful need for today. If you already have a big monitor like that then you probably already have a desktop computer. If you don't, then you probably already have a laptop. If you have neither, then I doubt you're the type of user who's going to get this today and a monitor to go along with it because your needs are probably already filled by an…

I bet this would be great for an operations, sales, support or any pother non technical role. The company would only have to buy docs and monitors and then the workforce can just swap out their mobile devices from meeting room to desk etc... I see a large enterprise or student play here if they have the vision to market it.

A large enterprise or educational institute workforce of people in non-technical roles who all have Galaxy S8 devices?

So that's a market size of one then? You could sell this solution to Samsung, and pretty much nobody else.

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by BjoernKW »

FreakyT wrote: post #13

It's definitely neat, but I feel like this has been done before without success -- examples like the Motorola Atrix, Windows Continuum, and even the cancelled Ubuntu Phone come to mind. (And, going further back in time, let's not forget the Palm Foleo!) It seems like a neat idea on the surface though, so I wonder why as a concept the phone-connected-to-desktop-peripherals thing hasn't gained more traction. My suspici…

As an IT consultant who travels a lot and works for different customers I'd love a smartphone that could double as a powerful development machine when plugged into a larger screen. No need to carry around and worry about a laptop anymore.

For such a setup to work and really make sense though it'd have to be available as near-ubiquitous infrastructure one could expect in every hotel and every office.

I suppose, however, the travelling tradesman / digital nomad target audience just isn't large and profitable enough (as of now at least) to warrant such a large-scale infrastructure undertaking.

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by asciimo »

fsiefken wrote: post #32
artursapek wrote: post #2

How long until I'm able to have my Ubuntu environment on a phone and plug it directly into my monitor, keyboard, and mouse? We already have the OS and peripherals, what's missing? It's not storage on the phone; Apple is selling 256GB iPhones. Is it the processing power?

You can already do this (for at least two years) with Linux Deploy on Android and VNC to localhost. You start an Ubuntu image within Android and connect to it through an Android VNC client. Keyboard, monitor and mouse can be done through cabling or wireless. I use VR in Samsung GearVR. https://www.androidauthority.com/install-ubuntu-on-your-andr...

By "use VR..." do you mean that use a VNC client in VR mode? How is the resolution?

Re: Samsung DeX

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Post by dguaraglia »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #36

That bezel-free desktop display in the first image, is that a real Samsung product?

Yep. Their curved monitors are essentially bezelless. They are also incredibly high quality. Samsung makes some neat screens: https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/curved/32--ch7...
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