Some Instacart workers to strike over pay that can be as low as $1 per hour

Post by _m8fo » Mon, Nov 20, 2017, 1:41 AM UTC

zulln wrote: post #23

_m8fo wrote: post #14

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Your story is a great reminder to why tipping is pointless (among many other reasons, such as [1]) If you do decide to tip, you should hand the person you want to have the money cash -- that's the only way you can be for sure they're gonna get it. [1] http://scholarship.sha.cornell.edu/articles/27/

That would however mean the delivery person will believe you intend to tip zero until you actually do. Not discussing whether it is right or not, but I assume that could affect the received service.

Post by sitkack » Mon, Nov 20, 2017, 1:44 AM UTC

notaboutdave wrote: post #24

Is this corporate greed or is the value of unskilled labor quickly approaching zero?

Post by awakeasleep » Mon, Nov 20, 2017, 1:46 AM UTC

jeremyt wrote: post #12

TaylorAlexander wrote: post #6

I recently ordered from DoorDash, a similar service. The app gave me a price for the order and then had a line item called “Dasher Tip” and asked me how much I wanted to put down. I put in $20. Later when the woman arrived with the food, we stopped to talk for a minute. She was a little younger than my mom, and said she had just started working for the service after her husband died. She asked me if she could ask me…

Call me crazy, but when I use one of these services, I expect the service to be reflected in the price.

Post by tertius » Mon, Nov 20, 2017, 1:51 AM UTC

matz1 wrote: post #26

themagician wrote: post #4

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It’s precisely BECAUSE the law hasn’t caught up that most of these exist the way that they do at all. Instacart, Postmates, Uber, Lyft, Airbnb, etc. all make profit on the gap between what they pay and what the regulated equivalent pays. Their big competitive advantage is just lower costs by completely ignoring the law. We talk about “innovation” but then these services mostly operate on not paying employees, insuran…

if the government really care of it's citizen, they should do it directly, by providing low cost/free basic necessity or basic income, etc. This way their citizen is not "forced" to work with these company you deemed "exploitative"

Post by drawnwren » Mon, Nov 20, 2017, 1:52 AM UTC

mtpn wrote: post #19

jeremyt wrote: post #12

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Call me crazy, but when I use one of these services, I expect the service to be reflected in the price.

While that would be ideal, I do think it’s at least slightly crazy to truly expect that people delivering food are not somewhat depending on tips to make it work. That’s just how it goes in the real world!