H1-B Administrators Are Challenging an Unusually Large Number of Applications
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#32Young, European, High-skilled worker here, who've been working on core Kubernetes products for three years. Got several job offers for key infra positions in various companies @ 200-250k+. Trump administration came in, decided to RFE+NOIR my H-1B with a bullshit reason, had to go back to my country, which is not my really home anymore whatsoever (wife/friends here). So yeah, that just happened. It's not only about ab…
Would you mind giving more details about what happened exactly? Why did you have to go back? What was the reason why they didn't renew your visa (I'm assuming it's a renewal problem since you mentioned 3 years)? And is there something that is being done by your company or yourself to get your US life back, or you just "gave up"?
I mean why the hell would a person with a 250k+ offer be kicked out, assuming you didn't commit any crime? Isn't the offer itself a proof that you're desperately wanted here and it should invalidate any RFE?
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#33Young, European, High-skilled worker here, who've been working on core Kubernetes products for three years. Got several job offers for key infra positions in various companies @ 200-250k+. Trump administration came in, decided to RFE+NOIR my H-1B with a bullshit reason, had to go back to my country, which is not my really home anymore whatsoever (wife/friends here). So yeah, that just happened. It's not only about ab…
Am in same boat as you. Its effecting individuals more than the companies they are aiming for.
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#34Finally, a nice uncontroversial subject amenable to logic and data. You either believe: 1. That a person is good for the country because they work, earn, spend and contribute to productivity. 2. They are taking a job that would have otherwise gone to an American, and are transferring money from laborers to the corporation. It seems to be a matter for economic theory. What do studies show? Does a worker produce as man…
No, it's mostly a matter of disagreement on fundamental values, not about whether the factual effects of the policy are in line with or opposed to an agreed set of values.
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#35Finally, a nice uncontroversial subject amenable to logic and data. You either believe: 1. That a person is good for the country because they work, earn, spend and contribute to productivity. 2. They are taking a job that would have otherwise gone to an American, and are transferring money from laborers to the corporation. It seems to be a matter for economic theory. What do studies show? Does a worker produce as man…
> It seems to be a matter for economic theory No, it's mostly a matter of disagreement on fundamental values, not about whether the factual effects of the policy are in line with or opposed to an agreed set of values.
Let me give you an example: Pro immigration advocates claim immigration will increase US jobs. So do anti immigration activists.
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It seems to be a matter for economic theory No, it's mostly a matter of disagreement on fundamental values, not about whether the factual effects of the policy are in line with or opposed to an agreed set of values.
That’s just false. That would be true only if the “factual effects” were agreed upon. Let me give you an example: Pro immigration advocates claim immigration will increase US jobs. So do anti immigration activists.
No, he fact that there is a conflict of values which includes a fundamental disagreement on which facts are relevant and how the same facts would weigh in desirability is true independent of whether there is agreement on the facts of the economic effects of immigration (there isn't, but the fact remains that the dispute on policy is largely not about facts, but goals.)
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree partially - I think it's easier to audit the biases an implementor has encoded into an automated system, especially since the pressures a high-level official exerts are often verbal and unrecorded.
We can barely understand existing machine learning systems, what makes you think that we will understand those that run a global bureaucracy?
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#38Young, European, High-skilled worker here, who've been working on core Kubernetes products for three years. Got several job offers for key infra positions in various companies @ 200-250k+. Trump administration came in, decided to RFE+NOIR my H-1B with a bullshit reason, had to go back to my country, which is not my really home anymore whatsoever (wife/friends here). So yeah, that just happened. It's not only about ab…
Heart breaking story, really (from a heavy Kubernetes user btw). Would you mind giving more details about what happened exactly? Why did you have to go back? What was the reason why they didn't renew your visa (I'm assuming it's a renewal problem since you mentioned 3 years)? And is there something that is being done by your company or yourself to get your US life back, or you just "gave up"? I mean why the hell woul…
TD;LR (if I remember the details correctly among all the overall bs):
- Changed work location,
- Company notified immigration and joined a check to the amendment,
- Immigration returned the notice because they claimed they did not need such check,
- Company re-submitted the amendment right after, and proved by the way government indeed required a check at the time of submission but might have changed conditions,
- Immigration submitted both a RFE and a NOIR within two days intervals (pretty unfair already imho) claiming H1B petition was violated because government figured (tax filing and flight records) I moved and company failed to tell immigration in due time,
- Company argued that they did indeed notify immigration promptly but that they discarded the initial amendment due to the check,
- Immigration decided to ignore completely and revoke H-1B regardless.
Documented personal achievements and publicized projects should have been way enough to convince any legit immigration officer that my contribution to the country was strictly positive. My personal thoughts? They only care about sending these filthy foreigners back to where they come from (as opposed to 'home'), and they take any covert opportunities to do so.
Company did fill a new petition, but attorneys highly doubt that I am still counted towards the cap. We will have an answer in a few days. Otherwise, we would have to wait a year for the next lottery, at best.
Truly sad and rather stressful event for my wife and I anyways. And she is currently 'stuck' in her PhD (few years to go). Also, because it's been a few years I have not been to the country where I hold nationality, I am treated as a non-resident expat and several rights (such as health insurance, bringing my foreigner wife on a VISA, etc), at least for now. To regain access to these, I would need to stay here for a while, rent a place and find a job.
And finally, the cherry on the 'deportation' cake: company did not tell me about any of these (back and forth took a few months..) until I found out myself just two weeks before immigration took final decision of kicking me out. Might have been a blessing in disguise though.
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Heart breaking story, really (from a heavy Kubernetes user btw). Would you mind giving more details about what happened exactly? Why did you have to go back? What was the reason why they didn't renew your visa (I'm assuming it's a renewal problem since you mentioned 3 years)? And is there something that is being done by your company or yourself to get your US life back, or you just "gave up"? I mean why the hell woul…
Sure! It is not about renewal, it hit at a different time. TD;LR (if I remember the details correctly among all the overall bs): - Changed work location, - Company notified immigration and joined a check to the amendment, - Immigration returned the notice because they claimed they did not need such check, - Company re-submitted the amendment right after, and proved by the way government indeed required a check at the…
Best of luck.