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Amazon’s Cashierless Store Is Almost Ready for Prime Time

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Re: Amazon’s Cashierless Store Is Almost Ready for Prime Time

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Cash is somewhat ok until you buy something. It's fine to carry around say £100 in a few notes, but then you buy something and you get back £5 and £10 notes and a handful of change and now it's a big jingly mess of shrapnel. I think contactless credit cards are the best right now. You don't need to hand anything over, get anything back, or enter anything, just wave the card.

I personally love $5 and $10 bills. I frequently do exact change when I have a bunch of those. Buying a BLT at the bodega? That's $5.75 with a coke. Here's $6. At the end of the day, I fire my change in a bucket and bring it to a machine once a year to get exchanged. Also, taking out $100 in 2017 is silly, at least if you spend more than $200 a week, which is most non-students here. I just get out the max that the AT…

This works less well with other currencies

If you're working with euros your largest denomination coin is 2€ . In Yen it's 500 yen! This is not chump change and just throwing those coins into the charity box can leave you with effectively increasing your lunch pricing by 50% if you have a "give all coins to charity" policy.

If you have the cash for it more power to you, of course.

Re: Amazon’s Cashierless Store Is Almost Ready for Prime Time

#54

You know what I find convenient? Cash. You just take it out of your wallet and hand it over in exchange for goods. No tracking, no receipt emails, no machine learning of my behavior to figure out when my partner is pregnant or whatever, no extra apps, no facial recognition, no 2-4% charge for businesses that only doesn't apply if you're an international monopoly. Oh, my phone is out of batteries. Guess I'll just give…

> No tracking, no receipt emails, no machine learning of my behavior to figure out when my partner is pregnant or whatever, no extra apps, no facial recognition, no 2-4% charge for businesses that only doesn't apply if you're an international monopoly. Sounds awfully inconvenient. I'm constantly having to travel to the bank to get more cash, it's easy to lose, steal and destroy, the money I get in change might be cou…

> it's easy to lose, steal and destroy,

Have any of these ever happened in your adult life? If so, how often?

Re: Amazon’s Cashierless Store Is Almost Ready for Prime Time

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Pretty sure you get notifications each time the app charges you, like to your smart watch if you have one. This is hugely beneficial to individual shoppers. Lining up is such a PITA. Walk in / walk out would be awesome. They should just have a rule that kids aren't allowed to come along. I can tell you that rule alone will have a zillion mothers crying out in gratitude.

So if you're a single mom you now need to get a babysitter to go grocery shopping?

When I was a military brat, my mom would shop at the base PX. Children without military ID were not allowed in the PX unless they stayed in the baby seat in the grocery cart.

Children could get a military ID at age 10.

So up until 10 I sat outside the PX waiting for her to finish shopping.

(Getting the ID was great, we could get on the base by ourselves with them. We'd ride our bikes out to the Air Force base and hang out near the runway, watching the F-104's take off. Seeing (and hearing) a squadron of them lift off was incredible. Sadly, I had to surrender the ID at 21.)

Re: Amazon’s Cashierless Store Is Almost Ready for Prime Time

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post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I personally love $5 and $10 bills. I frequently do exact change when I have a bunch of those. Buying a BLT at the bodega? That's $5.75 with a coke. Here's $6. At the end of the day, I fire my change in a bucket and bring it to a machine once a year to get exchanged. Also, taking out $100 in 2017 is silly, at least if you spend more than $200 a week, which is most non-students here. I just get out the max that the AT…

This works less well with other currencies If you're working with euros your largest denomination coin is 2€ . In Yen it's 500 yen! This is not chump change and just throwing those coins into the charity box can leave you with effectively increasing your lunch pricing by 50% if you have a "give all coins to charity" policy. If you have the cash for it more power to you, of course.

Who said anything about charity?

Re: Amazon’s Cashierless Store Is Almost Ready for Prime Time

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post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I personally love $5 and $10 bills. I frequently do exact change when I have a bunch of those. Buying a BLT at the bodega? That's $5.75 with a coke. Here's $6. At the end of the day, I fire my change in a bucket and bring it to a machine once a year to get exchanged. Also, taking out $100 in 2017 is silly, at least if you spend more than $200 a week, which is most non-students here. I just get out the max that the AT…

This works less well with other currencies If you're working with euros your largest denomination coin is 2€ . In Yen it's 500 yen! This is not chump change and just throwing those coins into the charity box can leave you with effectively increasing your lunch pricing by 50% if you have a "give all coins to charity" policy. If you have the cash for it more power to you, of course.

OP is dumping the change at home, then converting it to bills all at once.

That works even when coins have non-trivial value.

Re: Amazon’s Cashierless Store Is Almost Ready for Prime Time

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So if you're a single mom you now need to get a babysitter to go grocery shopping?

When I was a military brat, my mom would shop at the base PX. Children without military ID were not allowed in the PX unless they stayed in the baby seat in the grocery cart. Children could get a military ID at age 10. So up until 10 I sat outside the PX waiting for her to finish shopping. (Getting the ID was great, we could get on the base by ourselves with them. We'd ride our bikes out to the Air Force base and han…

I accompanied my grandfather into a PX and never had that issue - even as a teenager, no military ID.

Re: Amazon’s Cashierless Store Is Almost Ready for Prime Time

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Pfff. If I could get a waiver of legal liability in advance I can think of multiple ways to get around that. Since there aren't any cashiers whose safety could be threatened I'm heartily in favor of people developing creative hacks for the brief duration that remains before we turn the whole damn world into a capitalist panopticon.

So, why trying to be creative? Just robbing the store in a conventional fashion should do - and facing security/police when leaving. Good luck.

Because that's boring and not responsive to the situation.

Re: Amazon’s Cashierless Store Is Almost Ready for Prime Time

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You know what I find convenient? Cash. You just take it out of your wallet and hand it over in exchange for goods. No tracking, no receipt emails, no machine learning of my behavior to figure out when my partner is pregnant or whatever, no extra apps, no facial recognition, no 2-4% charge for businesses that only doesn't apply if you're an international monopoly. Oh, my phone is out of batteries. Guess I'll just give…

You love to carry cash? So do muggers. After living in SF for over a year I would never carry cash again. Period.
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