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Apple Begins High Sierra Automatic Rollout

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Re: Apple Begins High Sierra Automatic Rollout

#52

I have a Macbook that still runs Mavericks and I'm quite happy with it. I know it sounds conspiratorial but I've never been able to shake the forced obsolescence tag when it comes to Apple. I have a laptop. It works very well. I don't feel the need to upgrade or update the software, because I don't want to lose functionality that works really well for me.

El Capitan here on a Mac that won't install anything higher, everything still runs great

Re: Apple Begins High Sierra Automatic Rollout

#53
The upgrade to 10.13.1 has effectively locked my SSD in read-only mode because reading from it would always cause an APFS kernel panic (both under 10.13 and 10.13.1) also making it impossible to boot from it. It took me several hours to figure that out and to restore my data. I now downgraded to 10.12.6 and I am not missing anything. I think I am going to switch to Ubuntu as soon there is a comparable laptop to MacBooks from ~2015 (perhaps in 1-2 years?). This kind of nonsense is just not worth my time and money when I just need Firefox, ZSH and Emacs anyway.

Re: Apple Begins High Sierra Automatic Rollout

#54
Unfortunately my mom fell for this and the upgrade did not succeed destroying her operating system install. Hopefully her documents are still there; she really enjoys looking at pictures of her kids and grandkids.

Apple seriously needs to take heart of this message: https://youtu.be/e_hnG7kuam8

Re: Apple Begins High Sierra Automatic Rollout

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It is a shame to see Apple using the same tactics as iOS with macOS, which in my opinion a different beast when it comes to upgrades. I really regret upgrading to High Sierra, because — thanks to a still unfixed graphics driver issue, my 2014 rMBP reboots/lags/breaks when using the GPU. Fortunately, I managed to remedy it with a beta Nvidia driver; without a pro-user mindset, I can only imagine how many people are fr…

Out of curiosity where does one find such a driver?

LMGTFY:

https://www.google.com/search?q=nvidia+drivers+mac+high+sier...

Re: Apple Begins High Sierra Automatic Rollout

#56
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I also don't like how much they are pushing for me to install IOS 11 on my 5S. I know it's going to be unbearably slow but I intend to keep this phone for another year, so I want to stay on IOS 10

You intend to use your phone for a year without installing any security updates? Some people like living dangerously, I guess. For the rest, it's a good thing iOS strongly encourages people to keep up to date.

What about folks who continue to use older hardware?

This is a problem with the manufacturer, that doesn’t backport security fixes to older OS versions.

Re: Apple Begins High Sierra Automatic Rollout

#57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This has became the new normal it seems. Just like it's acceptable to reboot a computer without a user's permission, losing all their work (or to start it in the middle of the night and not switch it back off). This is purely something that these companies do for their own good without any regard for the user. They probably think "What are you going to do about it? Install Ubuntu?"

Do for their own good? I see this as for the collective good, as most of the people hurt by unpatched software are NOT microsoft but people, small businesses, and the victims of the resulting botnets. Obviously if you know what this is you can turn it off.

The issue with having an off switch is that non-tech-savvy people will blindly follow some instructions to disable it and will get caught by a major security vuln.

Case in point: when Chrome throws a TLS error, you could type "danger" to bypass it, but they had to change it because businesses started teaching users to bypass errors blindly.

Not exactly apples to apples, but similar enough in my mind. If users blindly disable updates, they won't be updated when there's a major security patch.

Re: Apple Begins High Sierra Automatic Rollout

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The mistake here is to use an entry-level model for development ;)

My Xcode install alone is 75GB Apple still sells a machine with a 128GB drive

I don't use Apple software much but I understand that Xcode is Apple's equivalent to something like Visual Studio --- which takes several GB, but what exactly in Xcode needs 75GB? Does it somehow include all versions of iOS and macOS ever released?

Re: Apple Begins High Sierra Automatic Rollout

#59
post #34

I also don't like how much they are pushing for me to install IOS 11 on my 5S. I know it's going to be unbearably slow but I intend to keep this phone for another year, so I want to stay on IOS 10

You intend to use your phone for a year without installing any security updates? Some people like living dangerously, I guess. For the rest, it's a good thing iOS strongly encourages people to keep up to date.

It's also good for Apple's pocket. It's really good for them when people have to buy a new phone just because the old phone is extremely laggy after a mandatory update.

Re: Apple Begins High Sierra Automatic Rollout

#60
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I also don't like how much they are pushing for me to install IOS 11 on my 5S. I know it's going to be unbearably slow but I intend to keep this phone for another year, so I want to stay on IOS 10

You intend to use your phone for a year without installing any security updates? Some people like living dangerously, I guess. For the rest, it's a good thing iOS strongly encourages people to keep up to date.

Apple should be legally required to maintain the same level of functionality as before then.
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