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Y Combinator Cuts Ties with Peter Thiel After Ending Part-Time Partner Program

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Re: Y Combinator Cuts Ties with Peter Thiel After Ending Part-Time Partner Program

#41
While I know most of these things never get a truly transparent answer, and often for valid reasons. I am very curious for some response from YC.

It may have been politically motivated, and it may not have been. I'm also not aware how much Thiel was involved vs. other partners. Additional insight into much of this could shed good light to those that appreciate much of what YC has done and aims to continue to do.

Some response from YC would be a big win, but also just may not be an option.

Re: Y Combinator Cuts Ties with Peter Thiel After Ending Part-Time Partner Program

#42
I am still really puzzled over exactly why Peter Thiel so so hated. I believe the level of hatred is completely unwarranted. From my understanding, it boils down to this:

- He is remotely associated with Trump - He helped take down Gawker - ....something something something...but he backed Trump!

For the Gawker part:

Gawker outed him without his permission.

Outing a gay man is something the tabloids used to do in the darkest time period of the United States. Finding someone was gay and making that known publicly was a tool used by very, very unpleasant people to destroy careers and lives for years.

Given how Liberal the tech industry is, it is genuinely puzzling that people would rise to the defense of "Freedom of the Press" to use someone's sexual identity to try to discredit or embarrass them and destroy their career.

This is not freedom of the press, its bullying. If a media outlet did something to you personally and you had a few million dollars to spare to shut them down, you would do it too. Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences.

So Peter Thiel helped shut down an abusive tabloid that outs gay men against their will and regresses the tech sector back to the 1970's and 80's. That doesn't seem sufficient to warrant the hatred.

Then he was associated with Trump. He dared so say things like: "Our middle class has been gutted by globalization and we are being eaten alive by China."

Bernie Sanders ran on this exact platform. Almost word-for-word, Bernie Sander's political platform economically had many things in common with what Thiel was promoting.

So that leaves one final option: The reason that people hate Thiel is because he made enemies in the Liberal press, they smeared him relentlessly and people internalized this without doing their own independent thinking or research.

I don't like that Y Combinator was expected to "Apologize" for not firing someone for holding political beliefs that align them with 42% of the United States population. I feel the tech industry is now a worse, less free place when demonization of this type has become so endemic.

Re: Y Combinator Cuts Ties with Peter Thiel After Ending Part-Time Partner Program

#43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, let's not argue. But it's fine to be curious. Sam has said that he won't cut Thiel for political ties. Thiel is cut. Does this represent an internal shift in momentum, or an external shift in appearances? Combine that with some recent news regarding Thiel. I wish I'd paid more attention to it. It was something like, Thiel was making a move against a certain company. So maybe it has nothing to do with politics,…

Let me try to pull some intellectual gratification out of this: A source close to Y Combinator said that the company ended its part-time partners program, which Thiel was a part of, some time last year. While some other part-time partners moved over to a program called "experts," which provides advice to Y Combinator entrepreneurs, Thiel did not join. It's legit fascinating to me to watch this in action. Let's say hy…

Mind you, by the sound of it, “experts” don’t invest in startups, or steer their direction, but just act as an oracle-like source of answers to questions. Whatever their opinion on Thiel, Thiel himself probably wouldn’t be interested in joining such a group. It’s all responsibility and no power.

Re: Y Combinator Cuts Ties with Peter Thiel After Ending Part-Time Partner Program

#45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, let's not argue. But it's fine to be curious. Sam has said that he won't cut Thiel for political ties. Thiel is cut. Does this represent an internal shift in momentum, or an external shift in appearances? Combine that with some recent news regarding Thiel. I wish I'd paid more attention to it. It was something like, Thiel was making a move against a certain company. So maybe it has nothing to do with politics,…

Let me try to pull some intellectual gratification out of this: A source close to Y Combinator said that the company ended its part-time partners program, which Thiel was a part of, some time last year. While some other part-time partners moved over to a program called "experts," which provides advice to Y Combinator entrepreneurs, Thiel did not join. It's legit fascinating to me to watch this in action. Let's say hy…

>”Just form another group, then don't invite Thiel to the new group"

Conceptually, this is also how VCs wash out founders.

Re: Y Combinator Cuts Ties with Peter Thiel After Ending Part-Time Partner Program

#46
post #10

Can we save ourselves a really long, pointless political argument? They ended the entire part-time-partner program, and transitioned some of the part-timers to advisor roles. Thiel is one of multiple part-timers not to become an advisor. You are not going to get an answer, or more "context", from YC about the political implications of this change. No matter how many times you ask and how carefully you word the questi…

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Re: Y Combinator Cuts Ties with Peter Thiel After Ending Part-Time Partner Program

#47
post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What would he have to gain from such a war?

A few large silicon valley companies have a large concentration of power. Libertarians like distribution of power among smaller entities.

That doesn't sound like the Peter Thiel I have heard about. If his writing is any reflection of his beliefs, he is a big fan of monopolies (unless he doesn't own them).

Re: Y Combinator Cuts Ties with Peter Thiel After Ending Part-Time Partner Program

#48

I am still really puzzled over exactly why Peter Thiel so so hated. I believe the level of hatred is completely unwarranted. From my understanding, it boils down to this: - He is remotely associated with Trump - He helped take down Gawker - ....something something something...but he backed Trump! For the Gawker part: Gawker outed him without his permission. Outing a gay man is something the tabloids used to do in the…

> - He is remotely associated with Trump

I don't think his association with Trump deserves him anything beyond disapproval from someone who also disapproves of Trump, definitely not hatred. And I've almost never seen any hate-filled comments directed towards him on HN that weren't downvoted.

But to suggest that he is only "remotely" associated with Trump seems like a blatant misrepresentation of his activities during and after the election.

Re: Y Combinator Cuts Ties with Peter Thiel After Ending Part-Time Partner Program

#49
post #10

Can we save ourselves a really long, pointless political argument? They ended the entire part-time-partner program, and transitioned some of the part-timers to advisor roles. Thiel is one of multiple part-timers not to become an advisor. You are not going to get an answer, or more "context", from YC about the political implications of this change. No matter how many times you ask and how carefully you word the questi…

If Thiel was removed solely for political reasons, that is outrageous imo. I hope this post isn’t just to deflect potential criticism.

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Re: Y Combinator Cuts Ties with Peter Thiel After Ending Part-Time Partner Program

#50

I am still really puzzled over exactly why Peter Thiel so so hated. I believe the level of hatred is completely unwarranted. From my understanding, it boils down to this: - He is remotely associated with Trump - He helped take down Gawker - ....something something something...but he backed Trump! For the Gawker part: Gawker outed him without his permission. Outing a gay man is something the tabloids used to do in the…

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