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All 500 of the world's top 500 supercomputers are running Linux

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Re: All 500 of the world's top 500 supercomputers are running Linux

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Post by pjvandehaar »

ForFreedom wrote: post #151

These linux OS are customized, compiled and not out of the box, correct?

At https://www.top500.org/statistics/overtime/ click "Operating System" and "Performance Share" to see:

  - 300 PFlops: Linux
  - 260 PFlops: other 
  - 150 PFlops: Cray Linux
  - 130 PFlops: CentOS
  - 1 PFlop: bullx supercomputer suite (supports RHEL/SUSE/etc)

Re: All 500 of the world's top 500 supercomputers are running Linux

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Post by nhaehnle »

unethical_ban wrote: post #189
nhaehnle wrote: post #155

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> Second, it is not on the people who have earned something to prove why they should be "permitted" to keep it; it's on the people who believe it should be taken away from them to justify that. This is a great example of status quo bias. You believe that the onus of arguing ethics is on the people who want to change the status quo when really, we should start by thinking about what society ought to look like from fir…

Equality of resources and status, or equality of opportunity? Some people are worse than others. Some people are less useful to society than others, though that doesn't make them worse. Some people, given large amounts of money, can do amazing things for the world. On a whim, I can think of Elon Musk. If he weren't allowed to have his fortune from Paypal because inequality is unethical... who would have gotten that m…

Equality of resources and status, or equality of opportunity?

Both, for two main groups of reason.

The first one is that when the available positions in society are highly unequal, then equality of opportunity may simply not be enough for a fair outcome, as who ends up in the comfortable and high-status position ends up largely being down to mere luck.

The second one is that (at least as long as families and inheritance are a thing) the two are linked anyway. Inequality of resources and status is the leading cause of inequality of opportunity, after all. You basically have to either go Brave New World or increase equality of resources in generation N in order to make serious progress towards equality of opportunity in generation N+1.

And we agree that a lot of it is about a matter of degree -- I've said as much in my original post, after all :)

Re: All 500 of the world's top 500 supercomputers are running Linux

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Post by tinus_hn »

njarboe wrote: post #190
derefr wrote: post #34

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Investor accreditation makes sense (for now.) Giving poor people free access to untested-investment-vehicle-X is basically the same as giving them over-the-counter access to scheduled drugs. Mistakes will be made, and the people making them—lacking resources as they do—won't be able to recover from them. Right now, we're spending a lot of money trying to figure out how to get people out of these ruts. (Free housing s…

In the US we let people gamble; the government even runs and promotes it in many states. We let people get credit cards to buy consumable products and then pay 20%-30% interest. We let them take out loans to buy real estate worth multiples of their annual salary and have a debt overhang greater than they could ever save in a lifetime. We let teen-agers take out $100k of student loans that can't even be dismissed by b…

> I might advocate for shutting down gambling, [...]

Why not reintroduce prohibition while you’re at it? It is not possible to force your opinion on other people like that, it only drives the behavior underground, which is a breeding ground for crime.

Re: All 500 of the world's top 500 supercomputers are running Linux

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Post by Skunkleton »

dingo_bat wrote: post #101
Skunkleton wrote: post #13

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Linus is awesome, and he deserves all of his success/money, and possibly more. But it is also important to recognize all of the others that were involved in making Linux such a success. Linux w/ only Linus would not have been the success it is today.

That's true for everything. Apple wouldn't have been apple without Woz, but I'd argue Jobs had a much bigger role in making apple what it is. Similarly, Linus is the one who has built and shaped Linux into what it is today. Other people have of course contributed, but they haven't influenced Linux in any way. If not for these specific people, some others could have contributed and we'd have the same result today. But…

What I mean is that it isn't just the Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, or Steve Wozniak that makes a product/idea/company what it is.

Re: All 500 of the world's top 500 supercomputers are running Linux

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Post by [deleted] »

mr_toad wrote: post #102
pcunite wrote: post #26

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Trump is not the problem. It is all the non-elected dark figures behind it all.

From what I can see anti-science, anti-technology attitude is endemic to modern English speaking western culture. Elected and un-elected officials are just a symptom of the problem. They'd all flip-flop if they thought the political and media climate was shifting.

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Re: All 500 of the world's top 500 supercomputers are running Linux

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Post by astrodust »

mschuster91 wrote: post #198
astrodust wrote: post #194

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They've acknowledged the "trash can" design was a mis-step and they're working to correct it, so there's that. Competing in the server market was very difficult for Apple, their needs are often radically different from consumer or even "pro"-consumer. They realized the couldn't "win" at servers, so backing out was the best bet for them.

> They realized the couldn't "win" at servers, so backing out was the best bet for them. The need for servers is there, or otherwise the "macOS Server" would not be in the App Store. It actually is really nice, it provides everything needed for a business: LDAP, file server, mail, calendar, webserver, TimeMachine centralized, print server, ... - but how am I supposed to recommend this to a customer when Apple does no…

There's still a market, but Apple's not interested in being a bit player in it. HP, Dell, and SuperMicro utterly own the server space. Taking those companies head-on with a single one-size-fits-all server is never going to work, and Apple wasn't prepared to build out a complete server line.

The "Server" software they have is for small businesses and is pretty good for 10-20 users, but beyond that you'd probably use Google Apps, Microsoft Exchange or something more serious. It's a nice thing to have, but it can't compete at an enterprise level.

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