Whatever your views on diversity are, I think we can all agree that the subject is so politically charged right now that this job is going to be like the Defense Against the Dark Arts position at Hogwarts
Apple’s diversity chief out after outcry
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Re: Apple’s diversity chief out after outcry
#12The entire "diversity" push is artificial and wrong. I've worked for places that said, "We need to hire x number of women, blacks, and homosexuals." Most people in the meetings were like "yeah, whatever..." Every time I've worked for some douche bag management team that pulled something like this, it went pear shaped. Hiring people because they are women, black, or homosexual does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to bring in talen…
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Re: Apple’s diversity chief out after outcry
#13>Denise Young Smith, who was named vice president of diversity and inclusion in May, made controversial comments last month during a One Young World Summit in Bogotá, Colombia. >“There can be 12 white, blue-eyed, blond men in a room and they’re going to be diverse too because they’re going to bring a different life experience and life perspective to the conversation,” the inaugural diversity chief said. >“Diversity i…
Saying she was hired for racial extortion just isn't reasonable.
There are horrible human beings who spend their days raising twitter mobs for personal gain, but there are also serious inequities. Many of them go back all the way to the colonial era. Ms. Smith may well have spent a career working to improve them.
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#14The far left often misses how multi-dimensional concepts like diversity or privilege are but how can a team without minorities be diverse? By definition, it would be composed only of people who were in the majority on every dimension! Her comment was almost certainly false, though public humiliation and firing after a 20 year career is a bit of an excess. Why not discuss the matter and ask for a gracious apology?
> The far left often misses how multi-dimensional concepts like diversity or privilege are
I think you are confusing the shallow tribal identity groups with weak ideological consciousness on the left with the far left; the complex multidimensional nature of diversity and privilege is pretty much the core of intersectionality, which is a pretty key concept for the left, especially (much of) the far left.
Or you're talking about the narrowly economic faction of the far left that sees non-class identity largely as a distraction from class issues, with diversity as a non-issue, and all privilege and discrimination boiling down to class warfare. But even they don't really miss multidimensionality, they just see the multidimensionality as a multipronged distraction.
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#15It almost seems like all those diversity preachers are the biggest racists scums.
Re: Apple’s diversity chief out after outcry
#16More on her comments: https://nypost.com/2017/11/17/apples-diversity-chief-lasts-j... >Denise Young Smith, who was named vice president of diversity and inclusion in May, made controversial comments last month during a One Young World Summit in Bogotá, Colombia. >“There can be 12 white, blue-eyed, blond men in a room and they’re going to be diverse too because they’re going to bring a different life experience and li…
Racial extortion...interesting term, haven't heard that one before.
Re: Apple’s diversity chief out after outcry
#17The entire "diversity" push is artificial and wrong. I've worked for places that said, "We need to hire x number of women, blacks, and homosexuals." Most people in the meetings were like "yeah, whatever..." Every time I've worked for some douche bag management team that pulled something like this, it went pear shaped. Hiring people because they are women, black, or homosexual does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to bring in talen…
"IT is, by nature, a meritocracy" <- Nice JOKE. I've worked at a number of big IT firms in NYC and they all throw around the meritocracy myth. But the reality of the situation is that your position is determined, to a high degree, on your relationship with higher ups, and that relationship is to large extent determined by shared backgrounds and whether you're a 'cool' person to be around. Even in the interview process, your answers are looked at differently based on who you are - this is all biased guys, let's not kid ourselves here. Sure, I'm not providing hard evidence, but this is what I've seen being on both side of the hiring fence.
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#18I'm a white guy. I'm a software engineer. I'm totally cool with hiring people who aren't white guys (assuming they can do the job.) It seems that Denise Young Smith understands that, but there's a weird fringe of the extreme left that only sees headcounts by color and gender, and only sees me as "a white guy", and only sees others as "an ", and it's sad that a black woman got fired for being reasonable instead of hav…
The left, outside of Silicon Valley, sees you as the enemy, the instigator of racism, sexism, and any other isms they can apply. They want you replaced with people of color and women as fast as possible. Inside of Silicon Valley, you're seen as this benevolent majority, surely appreciative of diversity, eager to break up the white privilege, and promote justice for those left behind....someday, but not today. There's tremendous hypocrisy on the left both in and out of Silicon Valley.
Re: Apple’s diversity chief out after outcry
#19The far left often misses how multi-dimensional concepts like diversity or privilege are but how can a team without minorities be diverse? By definition, it would be composed only of people who were in the majority on every dimension! Her comment was almost certainly false, though public humiliation and firing after a 20 year career is a bit of an excess. Why not discuss the matter and ask for a gracious apology?
> The far left often misses how multi-dimensional concepts like diversity or privilege are I think you are confusing the shallow tribal identity groups with weak ideological consciousness on the left with the far left; the complex multidimensional nature of diversity and privilege is pretty much the core of intersectionality, which is a pretty key concept for the left, especially (much of) the far left. Or you're tal…
I am referring to the way many on the far left speak of intersectionality as a number of diversity or victimhood points to be tallied. The truth is, like many multivariate functions, more complex.
Here is an example. Being male is not a privilege for a young black man being stopped by a police officer in the United States. On the contrary, it greatly increases the odds he will soon be unjustly killed.
Similarly, being Jewish may well be a privilege for a wealthy London banker, but is just as easily a death sentence for anyone, including an elite, in Lebanon over the past 25 years.
Re: Apple’s diversity chief out after outcry
#20More on her comments: https://nypost.com/2017/11/17/apples-diversity-chief-lasts-j... >Denise Young Smith, who was named vice president of diversity and inclusion in May, made controversial comments last month during a One Young World Summit in Bogotá, Colombia. >“There can be 12 white, blue-eyed, blond men in a room and they’re going to be diverse too because they’re going to bring a different life experience and li…
Racial extortion...interesting term, haven't heard that one before.
Jesse Jackson? Al Sharpton? That's their bread and butter.