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Re: Reddit CEO Cracks Down on Abusive Content to Protect Users, Attract Advertisers

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Post by jameskegel »

empath75 wrote: post #86
infodroid wrote: post #5

Someone needs to put a stop to this bad meme... On social media, advertising is not an endorsement of the content. This might be the case for traditional media, but social media is different. Advertisers and platforms need to recognize the difference, to accept the lack of control over user-generated content as a feature, and to push back on unfair criticism. But perhaps their real goal is increasing their control ov…

I’m sorry but if you’re advertising on a platform for hate groups, you’re financially supporting them, and I can choose not to do business with you because of it.

I'm a creator, and your logic impacts me financially, although I don't depend on this money, here's why: Advertisers don't even know my channel exists. The only thing an advertiser knows about my channel is that my viewers tend to watch tech-related videos, and can be associated with other related metadata produced by deductive reasoning alone. When it comes time for XYZBlenderCorp to invest in advertising, they don't get presented with a list and short bio of all the channels their ad will be displayed in conjunction with, they get presented with a friendly demographic filter with sliders for age, and combo boxes for geographic location and other classifiers.

If an advertisement for a video tutorial series teaching people how to use the 3d software Blender should happen to show up along a "Will It Blend" video, nobody should lose their job (or your money) over it. This mentality is ignorant of everything we know as technology professionals about how this business is run; so much of this process is automated and there is no conceivable way for it to not be. There are not enough humans needing jobs on this planet to manually sort video for prospective advertisers in the way you expect.

Re: Reddit CEO Cracks Down on Abusive Content to Protect Users, Attract Advertisers

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Post by fhood »

hiram112 wrote: post #124
fhood wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First off, the first amendment is specifically with respect to congress, and I don't understand why I have to say this so often. Second, society has always been self censoring, but the internet has thrown a wrench into that by allowing people to escape into pockets of like minded individuals. And you might have noticed that hacker news is fairly heavily censored, and as a result has managed to avoid turning into a ce…

It's strange, but I've never considered Reddit a cesspoll . The fact of the matter - and this is why Reddit is successful - is that it has lots of unique subs and a pretty decent voting system which pushes trolls to the bottom, often collapsed. But if I want to really see what these people are writing, I am free to browse any sub, sort by controversial , and expand the collapsed threads. Win - Win. Hacker News, OTOH,…

Sure, but you used to be able to just browse the front page. Try looking at the reddit frontpage from five years ago and comparing it to right now. And yeah, there are good subreddits but not very many of them are highly active.

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Post by randomerr »

koolba wrote: post #58

> Reddit also has a business incentive to clean up its act: It needs to appeal to marketers—and live up to its investor’s expectations. In July, Reddit raised $200 million at a $1.8 billion valuation. > [truncated] > Mr. Huffman didn’t give specific numbers, but said Reddit’s ad revenue had grown fivefold over the past two years, from a small base. I'm sure given the scale of the userbase the property is worth someth…

We're heading to another tech bubble. I've been talking with local economists and fund managers, Most of them that unless the new tax plan really takes off the tech and housing bubble is going to burst late 2018 or early 2019. Yes, housing is coming back hard again.

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4050332-new-housing-bubble-...

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Post by aaron-lebo »

ghostbrainalpha wrote: post #126
daxorid wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The larger point is that TPTB tend to ban groups that want communists thrown from helicopters, but are absolutely fine with groups that want fascists thrown from helicopters. There's a fundamental imbalance in how the standard is applied, and it's clearly ideological.

I understand your point. I lean conservative myself, but go with me on this. If the people that liberals want thrown from helicopters ( fascists ), are only in that group because they want to throw people from helicopters.... Isn't that the same logic as "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun"? The liberal subs HATE, HATE groups. They aren't calling for random white people, religiou…

I've had one too many brushes with r/politics where "liberals" hated people because they were the wrong gender and race. The liberal and conservative subs alike have plenty of people who hate the other side for no good reason.

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Post by zeth__ »

emodendroket wrote: post #109
zeveb wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're ignoring the subs which are the same thing, from a leftward slant. It does say some pretty nasty things about mankind, that so many of us love to hate.

Which ones do you have in mind? What left-wing sub is there advocating racism or misogyny?

Sanders for President if we are to believe the wall street journal from 2015/2016.

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Post by lostlogin »

gadders wrote: post #116
malvosenior wrote: post #8

I would love to see a statement from Reddit/Twitter... explicitly stating that they will remain politically neutral. There’s certainly content that should legally be taken down, there’s probably content that isn’t advertising friendly and could be taken down. It seems like these companies are being very slanted in their evaluation of the latter category. Basically right leaning = bad, left leaning = good. All I want…

This is happening all over. Twitter is banning/de-verifying mostly right-wing users, Shopify is stopping carrying stores for right wing people like Milo etc etc.

In Milos case there is soliciting views of neo nazis and video examples of defending child rapists. Quite apart from not wanting your company associated with that content there is probably a legal need to distance ones self to avoid litigation in some countries.

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Post by zeth__ »

jackmott wrote: post #96
malvosenior wrote: post #8

I would love to see a statement from Reddit/Twitter... explicitly stating that they will remain politically neutral. There’s certainly content that should legally be taken down, there’s probably content that isn’t advertising friendly and could be taken down. It seems like these companies are being very slanted in their evaluation of the latter category. Basically right leaning = bad, left leaning = good. All I want…

Why should anyone remain politically neutral no matter what? What if the Nazi party came into power? Impartiality can impart political bias if the facts happen to lean one way or the other, as they will from time to time.

The Nazi came to power largely because the communists would constantly fight them in the streets and "no-platform" them. You'd think someone would have read a history book.

Downvoting does not change facts. The constant street battles between the Communists and Nazis helped the Nazi far more than the Communists.

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Post by nilkn »

jackmott wrote: post #96
malvosenior wrote: post #8

I would love to see a statement from Reddit/Twitter... explicitly stating that they will remain politically neutral. There’s certainly content that should legally be taken down, there’s probably content that isn’t advertising friendly and could be taken down. It seems like these companies are being very slanted in their evaluation of the latter category. Basically right leaning = bad, left leaning = good. All I want…

Why should anyone remain politically neutral no matter what? What if the Nazi party came into power? Impartiality can impart political bias if the facts happen to lean one way or the other, as they will from time to time.

Open platforms for discussion are actually one of the best ways to prevent something like the Nazi party from coming into power. And if the Nazi party did come into power, you would not expect there to be impartiality in any major discussion forums in the nation.

Example:

A lot of folks are flabbergasted at /r/The_Donald, but I've always contended that that subreddit exists and developed into its current culture precisely because right-leaning opinions are treated so harshly on most of the rest of reddit. In other words, there was a feeling of suppression and censorship, which leads to the sort of high-energy, irreverent "shit-posting" that is the mainstay of /r/The_Donald.

Re: Reddit CEO Cracks Down on Abusive Content to Protect Users, Attract Advertisers

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Post by creaghpatr »

scrollaway wrote: post #56
Cuuugi wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You shouldn't berate someone for essentially asking to back up claims.

Asking "what about left-wing subreddits" is whataboutism. Nobody is claiming bannable content shouldn't be banned because it's left-wing (except GP's implication).

crying 'whataboutism' is effectively ceding the argument I'm not sure why this term has been plaguing HN lately.
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