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Re: Reddit CEO Cracks Down on Abusive Content to Protect Users, Attract Advertisers

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I would love to see a statement from Reddit/Twitter... explicitly stating that they will remain politically neutral. There’s certainly content that should legally be taken down, there’s probably content that isn’t advertising friendly and could be taken down. It seems like these companies are being very slanted in their evaluation of the latter category. Basically right leaning = bad, left leaning = good. All I want…

It's kind of an inside joke on reddit now how left-leaning /r/politics is. It frames itself as a generic political news page but it's so biased it's incredible.

Look at /r/politics right now, or any day of the week. Good luck finding one article that isn't about how Trump is literally Hitler. Whether you agree with it or not, I don't see how anyone can say it doesn't have an agenda.

Re: Reddit CEO Cracks Down on Abusive Content to Protect Users, Attract Advertisers

#32

I would love to see a statement from Reddit/Twitter... explicitly stating that they will remain politically neutral. There’s certainly content that should legally be taken down, there’s probably content that isn’t advertising friendly and could be taken down. It seems like these companies are being very slanted in their evaluation of the latter category. Basically right leaning = bad, left leaning = good. All I want…

It's kind of an inside joke on reddit now how left-leaning /r/politics is. It frames itself as a generic political news page but it's so biased it's incredible.

Politics wasn't always like that ... it's now a counter-balance to The_Donald. Hard to remain "neutral" when right next door there's not even an attempt.

Re: Reddit CEO Cracks Down on Abusive Content to Protect Users, Attract Advertisers

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Yah, except they're hosting /r/The_Donald which has been confirmed to violate Reddit rules. Just like Twitter they cherry pick for $$$.

What about r/The_Donald violates the rules other than going against your political preferences? There are left-wing sub-reddits that openly call for armed revolution, violence against the "bourgeoisie" and the police, destruction of property, etc; but I'm sure they're OK to exist, right?

> What about r/The_Donald violates the rules

Literally googling that will yield plenty of results with posts that are far, far outside the rules and aren't being taken down.

Furthermore, nothing about "left-wing subreddits" is relevant regarding whether r/T_D violates sitewide rules or not.

Re: Reddit CEO Cracks Down on Abusive Content to Protect Users, Attract Advertisers

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They'll have to dig themselves out of a pretty deep hole, reputation-wise. While there are specific subject subreddit with fantastic content, most of the regional subs they carry lots of news and politics have a well-earned reputation for racism and xenophobia, and the more discussion-oriented subs add in misogyny into the mix.

Only the subs with obsessively strict moderation like the science subs (or /r/Canada politics) seem to succeed in discussing issues without hatred.

Meanwhile, Twitter maintains mainstream acceptance despite being the online home of David Duke and various other infamous white supremacists.

Re: Reddit CEO Cracks Down on Abusive Content to Protect Users, Attract Advertisers

#35

Someone needs to put a stop to this bad meme... On social media, advertising is not an endorsement of the content. This might be the case for traditional media, but social media is different. Advertisers and platforms need to recognize the difference, to accept the lack of control over user-generated content as a feature, and to push back on unfair criticism. But perhaps their real goal is increasing their control ov…

I don't see why it's not an endorsement. Money changed hands. The content of reddit's many forums is well known. No one is blind to this. "I didn't give the killer money for a knife, I bought him lunch!"

It’s an endorsement of content on TV (see Sean Hannity). It’s an endorsement of content on radio (Dr. Laura lost her show because of it).

Why would anyone think the internet is different? Complaining to advertisers has been very effective for a long time.

Re: Reddit CEO Cracks Down on Abusive Content to Protect Users, Attract Advertisers

#36

I would love to see a statement from Reddit/Twitter... explicitly stating that they will remain politically neutral. There’s certainly content that should legally be taken down, there’s probably content that isn’t advertising friendly and could be taken down. It seems like these companies are being very slanted in their evaluation of the latter category. Basically right leaning = bad, left leaning = good. All I want…

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Re: Reddit CEO Cracks Down on Abusive Content to Protect Users, Attract Advertisers

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And from what I understand, it's been quite effective, too [1]. It seems that removing abusive communities basically reduces the amount of abusive content overall, because there's one less community where that content is acceptable to share. So not as much of a "spillover effect" as feared, which is good news. [1] http://comp.social.gatech.edu/papers/cscw18-chand-hate.pdf

That study if I recall correctly completely misses the spillover to other websites, considering only reddit itself - but bans on sites like reddit and Twitter have lead to the rise of sites like Gab, 8chan and Voat in recent years. The spillover is very real, just not on the same site.

Right, but the CEO of Reddit couldn't care less about that.

Re: Reddit CEO Cracks Down on Abusive Content to Protect Users, Attract Advertisers

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And from what I understand, it's been quite effective, too [1]. It seems that removing abusive communities basically reduces the amount of abusive content overall, because there's one less community where that content is acceptable to share. So not as much of a "spillover effect" as feared, which is good news. [1] http://comp.social.gatech.edu/papers/cscw18-chand-hate.pdf

That study if I recall correctly completely misses the spillover to other websites, considering only reddit itself - but bans on sites like reddit and Twitter have lead to the rise of sites like Gab, 8chan and Voat in recent years. The spillover is very real, just not on the same site.

One of the authors here. That's correct. The spillover to other sites is not studied.

Based on an (admittedly imperfectly) related paper with Stevie Chancellor & Munmun De Choudhury [1], I would expect that the spillover to other sites results in a 1) smaller, but 2) more committed group of users.

http://comp.social.gatech.edu/papers/cscw16.thyghgapp.chance... (see Summary of Findings, page 10)

Re: Reddit CEO Cracks Down on Abusive Content to Protect Users, Attract Advertisers

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Similarly, Youtube is demonetizing videos with "bad words". Such as referring to "the naked eye". See here for a deconstruction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlRFoYr-XuY&t=306s This kind of censorship is nice, until it turns into censorship of "things the company dislikes", versus "bad / illegal things." See recent vidcon for an example. Despite rules against harassment, a panelist out-and-out harassed an attendee…

> See recent vidcon for an example.

Anita Sarkeesian and Sargon of Akkad?

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