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Re: Tesla Roadster

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Has the 8 second quarter mile been confirmed to be done in stock trim (i.e., no special tires or other modifications)? The reason I ask is because that is EXTREMELY impressive. I tune EFI systems on race cars as a hobby, and any car in the 8 second range usually needs to run slicks or drag radials to have enough traction. Even all wheel drive cars (GTRs, DSMs, EVOs, etc.) usually run 4 slicks once they get to that sp…

Yes but in those cars traction control is usually off. In Tesla extremely precise traction control may work in your favour giving only as much power as tires can handle effectively allowing to near zero time loss on regaining tracktion. In quarter mile cars you don't have option, either tire will handle all that power or slip causing time loss.

Modern high-end aftermarket EFI systems (such as MoTeC) do have traction control, but it's not as effective as one would expect.

The main issue I found is that street tires often just don't have the traction required, even under ideal conditions. The result is that traction control has to cut power so much that it ends up hurting the quarter mile times.

It does help tremendously on consistency and safety though. Things start to pucker when all four wheels start hazing in a 1000 HP AWD car.

You seem familiar, but for others, here's what a typical 8 second car looks like leaving the line:

http://www.speednik.com/files/2015/01/screen-shot-2015-01-26...

https://c.slashgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/cobra-jet...

http://cdn.dragzine.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/2/files/2011/11...

Notice how massive the rear tires are.

EDIT: Added picture of an 8 second all wheel drive car (GTR). The interesting thing here is the clear bias of traction towards the rear. When launching a car with that much power, the weight shifts towards the rear enough to render the front wheels almost useless (unless the suspension is extremely stiff).

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Nf4pJZaK7P4/maxresdefault.jpg

Re: Tesla Roadster

#492
This doesn't really makes sense as a sports car if you want to do anything but go straight. If they had wanted good handling they should have gone for half the range and saved the weight.

Re: Tesla Roadster

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Sounds really good on paper but the production is scheduled for 2020, so it’s unfair to compare it to the cars currently on the market. No other manufacturers announce cars so far ahead so it seems at least partly like a hype for Tesla investors. Acceleration is just one part of what makes a great sports car. And how is the acceleration past 100 mph? That’s the traditional weakness of electric cars and it matters mor…

> No other manufacturers announce cars so far ahead Surely, you're joking? Virtually every carmaker has announced a whole bunch of electric cars for 2020-2021 (without giving nearly as many details or demoing the cars already). And that's discounting their "concept cars".

Ford announced their Bronco a while back that isn’t available til the 2020 model year.

Re: Tesla Roadster

#494
Great another car for the super wealthy. I thought Tesla's mission was to take on the GM's and Toyota's of the world. I'd personally be more excited if they announced an affordable Tesla SUV.

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#495

Am I the only one who's worried that Tesla is really starting to bite off more than they can chew? Right now their finances are a mess, they are publicly struggling to produce their most important car ever, their CEO is spending time figuring out how to dig holes underneath LA...and now they're announcing a semi truck and a roaster in the same day? Don't get me wrong, Teslas are incredible cars. But this seems like a…

You have been reading too many finance blogs. Their finances are far from a mess, they are just not what finance people like to see. They have cash on hand and a roadmap to execute on. If they don't execute they will go out of business, and they will take my money as an investor with them. I'm OK with that and as long as they continue to have a path to profitability I am all on board. I want to see them burning money…

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The Tesla roadster specs are insane! No exotic carmaker will be able to match it (taking price as a consideration). (no Ferrari, or Lambo, can get that close. This is Formula 1 acceleration speeds). Plus 620 miles of range, and it is a 4 seater. Expensive as hell, but this is exotic car territory. Base Specs Acceleration 0-60 mph1.9 sec Acceleration 0-100 mph4.2 sec Acceleration 1/4 mile8.8 sec Top SpeedOver 250 mph…

Ah, but do the doors go like this ^(o_o)^ or like this \(o_o)/ not like this

HBO's Silicon Valley reference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJIAOosI6js

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I don't think (although it's complicated), Fiat still owns Ferrari?

I think not. They still have the same (biggest) ownership, but they are not the same company. FCA still owns Lamborghini, though.

Lamborghini is Audi (VW Group).

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You have been reading too many finance blogs. Their finances are far from a mess, they are just not what finance people like to see. They have cash on hand and a roadmap to execute on. If they don't execute they will go out of business, and they will take my money as an investor with them. I'm OK with that and as long as they continue to have a path to profitability I am all on board. I want to see them burning money…

Exactly. As a small investor in them I fully support them. Even if I lose all my money I know it went to cool research that has benefit the progress of science in a cool way.

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Re: Tesla Roadster

#499

Has the 8 second quarter mile been confirmed to be done in stock trim (i.e., no special tires or other modifications)? The reason I ask is because that is EXTREMELY impressive. I tune EFI systems on race cars as a hobby, and any car in the 8 second range usually needs to run slicks or drag radials to have enough traction. Even all wheel drive cars (GTRs, DSMs, EVOs, etc.) usually run 4 slicks once they get to that sp…

> that still puts it on par with 1000 HP dedicated drag cars

I think you'll find it's past those. Even 1200hp GTRs don't run eights.

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Do you have any sources for that? Personally, I don't find sports car sounds satisfying at all, so I guess those reasons don't apply to everybody.

It's kinda why someone would buy a Harley Davidson...they have a distinctive sound associated with power.

Yes, but this might just be a cultural phenomenon, not a universal quality of the sound itself.
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