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The Effect of Cold Showering on Health and Work: A Randomized Controlled Trial

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TLDR; 3000 participants study that asked them to do cold showers for 30-90 seconds each day for 1 month. Main difference shown was ~30% reduction in sick days they took. On a side note, has anyone here tried wim hof method?

I actually went and met Wim. I took one of his seminars. He had us all go outside into a pool of ice together for about ~1 minute with all of us chanting who let the dogs out while we froze. I walked out completely red because it was the coldest thing I'd ever done. At that point I was doing cold showers for about a year and a half. I am a very physical person and his method was the first one to put my mind into a me…

Can relate (minus meeting Wim): when going to the spa, I alternate between sauna and submerging in ice water for 60-90 seconds. My BPM goes from 150 to ~35 in that time. Climbing out of the cold water and laying down on the chair induces such calm in my mind... Have to do this more often.

Also makes me feel warm in cold weather.

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Because of the study design, there's no control group that would account for placebo. The placebo effect in several meta-analyses (Beecher, Haas) showed an effect in studies of around 30%. Coincidentally, people participating in this study felt less sick when talking a hot-cold shower by ~30%. Without being able to discount placebo, I am highly suspect of the results of this study.

So, how would you make people believe they took a cold shower without it actually happening? :-)

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I had to cold shower for a January fortnight when we had issues with our gas boiler. One thing I noticed was that it got me alert much sooner in the morning. Typically I would get up at 7:00am, shower, eat and then head off to work to start at 9:00am, but my brain wouldn't really be in gear till about 9:30am. With cold showering the brain was in gear far sooner. I felt more willing to get out and get stuff done. Mayb…

I wouldn't want to get alert quickly in the morning.

I much enjoy the pleasant and unique slowness of the mornings and I wish to wake up slow, get up slow, and enjoy my breakfast slow and let the energy gradually rush back into my body for the day ahead. Looking from my perspective, a cold shower in the morning sounds like one of the worst ways to make your life more miserable.

But on the other hand cold water seems to be otherwise beneficial. For example, winter swimming is generally recognised to aid in numerous ways, both physiologically and mentally. I sometimes dip into the cold pool (4-6 C) for a minute at the swimming hall and it feels great afterwards. But that's at a time when I'm up and moving already. Doing that in the morning would be just as punishing than a cold shower.

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It's interesting they only focus on the cold shower. I would have thought it would be short and barely give you enough time to get over the initial shock(cold shock response) - around a minute or so when the gag reflex hits and what would potentially drown you in open water. After that shock, things change.

My personal experience is with swimming in the sea year round for 3 to 4 years. 2 to 3 times a week every week. I started in August to help acclimatise to the change in the temperature as it cooled. Temperature ranges from 18C in August to 4C in early March, give or take.

The effects were great over all and I thought I was healthier for it. I understand the tightening of the muscle which some of the others mentioned as an experience. I got used to this and it seemed to relax me. I never really got the tight muscles thing except afterwards when I kind of wanted to tighten up.

I would walk in at a reasonable pace. As others have said, with a meditative feeling. Once fully emerged and the shock had passed I could swim for a maximum of around 5 to 10 minutes at the coldest part of the year. Sometimes it was more a splash around for as long as I could stand it. I generally stopped and got out when my wrists started to cramp. I'm guessing the cold water would send the blood circulation internally away from the skin.

It always felt the warmest in late September early October for some reason. The coldest place I ever swam was between two San Juan islands in August!

Once out of the water I would feel warm and have a feeling of glowing. Drying off would be a pleasure despite the outside temperature. My overall demeanour would be very positive and up lifting. I've heard talk of endorphins or something along those lines being released in to the body.

I never jumped in to a hot shower right after preferring to warm naturally and slowly. I felt warm for a good twenty minutes after getting out and being dressed fully whoever cold it was.

The whole experience became slightly addictive which is why I did it so long. Work has now gotten in the way of that.

There is a serious safety aspect to all this and it should be done with caution and understanding. This guy, Mario Vittone, was very informative on what's going on when trying to stay alive in cold water: http://mariovittone.com/2010/10/1-10-1/

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This is not for everyone. I can do this and enjoy it in summer but not winter. I have poor circulation and am always cold as it is. In winter, the water comes out of our pipes at whatever ground temperature is - typically just a couple degrees above freezing. Tried it once for a week, and was stepping out of the shower nearly hypothermic and shivering violently. Immediately came down with a massive head and chest col…

Try the wim hof method

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For the past 2 months my family and I have been forced to take cold showers in Puerto Rico. I personally stoped showering for almost a month. I got so sticky it was unbearable so I finally showered again. The cold water was difficult to relax in.

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Does anyone know why I prefer being cold more than others?

I sleep with all the windows open and my other half has pyjamas, a double duvet and a hot water bottle. Like in December in Scotland.

I also dislike wearing Jackets or Coats under any circumstances. I dislike hot drinks maybe apart from Soup.

When people go on Holiday and basque in the sun saying it is perfect weather. My actual perfect weather (I believe I feel like they do when it happens) is for a low crisp negative temperature with no wind.

For a long time I have wondered why I prefer this side of the fence and wonder if I have some weird lineage from the North.

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Does anyone know why I prefer being cold more than others? I sleep with all the windows open and my other half has pyjamas, a double duvet and a hot water bottle. Like in December in Scotland. I also dislike wearing Jackets or Coats under any circumstances. I dislike hot drinks maybe apart from Soup. When people go on Holiday and basque in the sun saying it is perfect weather. My actual perfect weather (I believe I f…

Do you have high blood pressure?

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People who take cold showers are just as sick, but call off work less? Maybe it's because the misery from the cold water masks the misery from the illness?

My guess would be that it exercises your will and discipline, more than anything else. Basically, maybe it toughens you up mentally a bit.
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