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Re: Tesla Roadster

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Post by erik_seaberg »

thebluehawk wrote: post #83
chrismcb wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When the battery can be refilled in minutes, it will be game over. Until then...

As a Tesla Model S owner, you really don't need to fill your car in minutes. It's a totally different (but not bad) mindset. Every morning my car is full, because I plug it in in my garage. So if I don't go more than 260 miles that day, it's plugged in the next night. It doesn't matter that it takes a few hours. My gas car was just sitting in the garage each night anyway doing nothing. How many hours does your car si…

I've never had a private garage, much less a locked one I could rewire. If Tesla wants to go mainstream they need to handle apartment parking.

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Post by jabretti »

chrismcb wrote: post #70
dmode wrote: post #61

Bold prediction: if they manage to produce a battery capable of 620 mile range promised, it will essentially be game over for ICE cars. My bet is that next generation of Model S and X will easily be in the 400-500 mile rsnge.

When the battery can be refilled in minutes, it will be game over. Until then...

Also I'd really want to be able to buy one for less than $200K. Cost is still the real problem.

Re: Tesla Roadster

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Post by 0xbear »

zippergz wrote: post #102
0xbear wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Too bad it can’t maintain that performance for any extended period of time. Battery is known to overheat if you drive it too hard.

I’m no Tesla defender, but how is anything “known” about a car that was first announced a couple of hours ago?

It’s physics, there’s no way around it. You expend a ton of energy——battery heats up. Without massive radiators there’s nowhere for that heat to go.

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Post by bboreham »

samhunta wrote: post #58
Animats wrote: post #23

Does this mean that Tesla is pivoting from their attempt to produce a medium-priced car in quantity and going back to hand-building high-end cars? Tesla is good at high-end, low volume products. But the Model 3 production fiasco shows they don't know how to do what Detroit and Wolfsburg and Toyota City do. This is in a way a step backwards. Tesla is going back to targeting the 1%. There are lots of little supercar co…

Toyota owns Lexus, Ford had Jaguar and Land Rover, Hyundai owns Genesis, Volkswagon has Bentley, Fiat owns Ferrari. Just like other car manufacturers, Tesla does it all. edit: Ford didn't start Jaguar.

Ford didn't start Jaguar or Land Rover; it bought them in 1990 and 2000 respectively. And sold both to Tata Motors in 2008.

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Post by wintermute2001 »

Am I the only one who's worried that Tesla is really starting to bite off more than they can chew? Right now their finances are a mess, they are publicly struggling to produce their most important car ever, their CEO is spending time figuring out how to dig holes underneath LA...and now they're announcing a semi truck and a roaster in the same day? Don't get me wrong, Teslas are incredible cars. But this seems like an overreach considering they are struggling to figure out how to meet demand on the Model 3. It's also insane to announce this car with what boils down to a bunch of CGI! These are some very bold announcements and there isn't much explanation for how these goals will be met. I hope this all turns out as advertised, but I'm very skeptical.

Re: Tesla Roadster

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Post by colordrops »

Animats wrote: post #23

Does this mean that Tesla is pivoting from their attempt to produce a medium-priced car in quantity and going back to hand-building high-end cars? Tesla is good at high-end, low volume products. But the Model 3 production fiasco shows they don't know how to do what Detroit and Wolfsburg and Toyota City do. This is in a way a step backwards. Tesla is going back to targeting the 1%. There are lots of little supercar co…

Give Tesla a few months before you decide that the Model 3 release is a fiasco.

Re: Tesla Roadster

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Post by smitherfield »

tdiggity wrote: post #81

I wonder what the handling will be like. Teslas on the track have had over heating issues, and cornering performance has been just average at best. Not every exotic car owner (Ferrari, Lambo, Mclaren) brings their car to the track, but I feel like a good % do. When you own a 200k car, you don't drive it to the grocery store because it attracts too much attention, and you worry something bad will happen to it. Edit: F…

> But, alas, 200k, I want it to be perfect forever. Even used in 5 years @ 130-150k.

The good/bad thing about electric cars is that they're sort of like computers right now (they're getting twice as good every 1-2 years), so I expect they'll depreciate more along the lines of used smartphones than (the existing market in) used cars.

Re: Tesla Roadster

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Post by [deleted] »

synicalx wrote: post #104
samhunta wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Toyota owns Lexus, Ford had Jaguar and Land Rover, Hyundai owns Genesis, Volkswagon has Bentley, Fiat owns Ferrari. Just like other car manufacturers, Tesla does it all. edit: Ford didn't start Jaguar.

> Tesla does it all. Except make enough Model 3's, they don't do that.

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Re: Tesla Roadster

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Post by jabretti »

hw wrote: post #60

Would ludicrous mode for the roadster go 0-60 in 1 second? the 620 mile range is super impressive. How??? Or is it just that the roadster is super light?

You'd think that the ability for the wheels to deliver power to the ground has to be the limiting factor at some point.

Re: Tesla Roadster

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Post by pduszak »

synicalx wrote: post #101
_ea1k wrote: post #26

I would really love to know how they are getting such a large battery capacity in a vehicle of this size. Is this a generational leap in energy density? What kind of materials are being used here?

Genuinely asking here, because I know very little about batteries; What happens when a gigantic battery like that starts failing and needs to be replaced? Can they be recycled or maybe refurbished?

This video shows how a battery can be recycled: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpSrHZnCi-A
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