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Bill to Legalize Marijuana and Opium Cleared for Indian Parliament (2016)

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Re: Bill to Legalize Marijuana and Opium Cleared for Indian Parliament (2016)

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Post by ep103 »

meri_dian wrote: post #10

I wouldn't be so quick to label Opium legalization as 'progressive'. The Chinese experience with Opium in the 1800's was terrible and very damaging to their society. The nature of opiates is that they are very addictive addicted. Drug addiction is incredibly difficult to shake once it has taken hold. The way to deal with opiates is to never allow someone to become addicted in the first place. It's time for us to real…

yeah, legalizing opium is an odd choice. I don't understand it. Its addictive. It would make more sense to significantly decriminalize it, but keep it illegal, so that addicts can get treatment without fear of legal repercussion. I don't understand what would be gained by legalizing it wholesale though.

Re: Bill to Legalize Marijuana and Opium Cleared for Indian Parliament (2016)

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Post by [deleted] »

meri_dian wrote: post #10

I wouldn't be so quick to label Opium legalization as 'progressive'. The Chinese experience with Opium in the 1800's was terrible and very damaging to their society. The nature of opiates is that they are very addictive addicted. Drug addiction is incredibly difficult to shake once it has taken hold. The way to deal with opiates is to never allow someone to become addicted in the first place. It's time for us to real…

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Re: Bill to Legalize Marijuana and Opium Cleared for Indian Parliament (2016)

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Post by vkou »

arkades wrote: post #13
sandGorgon wrote: post #7

This is a private bill introduced by the Aam Aadmi Party. Let's see what happens to it, but kudos for the attempt!

What is the difference between a private and non-private bill?

A private bill does not have the support of the ruling party behind it (That does not mean that the ruling party will vote it down, though.) Any member of parliament can propose a private bill - the odds of it becoming law, though, are not great.

Re: Bill to Legalize Marijuana and Opium Cleared for Indian Parliament (2016)

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Post by billmalarky »

freedomben wrote: post #9
billmalarky wrote: post #4

Is this "legalization" or more like "decriminalization"?

Legalization. > this bill aims to legalize and start regulated supply of traditional intoxicants such as opium and marijuana (cannabis) as ‘soft drugs’ in India.

Thanks for answering. I read that line but wasn't entirely sure if "soft drug" meant full legal recreational or prescription only etc.

Re: Bill to Legalize Marijuana and Opium Cleared for Indian Parliament (2016)

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Post by maskedinvader »

arkades wrote: post #13
sandGorgon wrote: post #7

This is a private bill introduced by the Aam Aadmi Party. Let's see what happens to it, but kudos for the attempt!

What is the difference between a private and non-private bill?

private member bill is a bill tabled by any member of parliament (known as MP in India) who is not a part of a executive branch or part of the cabinet of the ruling govt

Re: Bill to Legalize Marijuana and Opium Cleared for Indian Parliament (2016)

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Post by duxup »

Considering the opioid experience here in the US and the science showing how incredibly addictive it is, even after a few days use ... I find the opium legalization an odd choice.

Marijuana fine by me. Opium, that sounds like it could be terrible.

Re: Bill to Legalize Marijuana and Opium Cleared for Indian Parliament (2016)

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Post by bbatha »

meri_dian wrote: post #10

I wouldn't be so quick to label Opium legalization as 'progressive'. The Chinese experience with Opium in the 1800's was terrible and very damaging to their society. The nature of opiates is that they are very addictive addicted. Drug addiction is incredibly difficult to shake once it has taken hold. The way to deal with opiates is to never allow someone to become addicted in the first place. It's time for us to real…

> The Chinese experience with Opium in the 1800's was terrible and very damaging to their society.

To play devil's advocate, China had loads of Opium pumped in by the British to pay for their tea debts. The British countered any attempt to regulate it, so they could keep their markets open. Opium is a dangerous substance, but I'd be interested to see what a well regulated opium market looks like. Unrefined opium is in the same ballpark as alcohol for addicitiveness.

Re: Bill to Legalize Marijuana and Opium Cleared for Indian Parliament (2016)

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Post by ni-hil »

ep103 wrote: post #11
meri_dian wrote: post #10

I wouldn't be so quick to label Opium legalization as 'progressive'. The Chinese experience with Opium in the 1800's was terrible and very damaging to their society. The nature of opiates is that they are very addictive addicted. Drug addiction is incredibly difficult to shake once it has taken hold. The way to deal with opiates is to never allow someone to become addicted in the first place. It's time for us to real…

yeah, legalizing opium is an odd choice. I don't understand it. Its addictive. It would make more sense to significantly decriminalize it, but keep it illegal, so that addicts can get treatment without fear of legal repercussion. I don't understand what would be gained by legalizing it wholesale though.

The ability to potentially obtain a product of better quality, and to not have to deal with such shady people to get their dose.
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