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On Being Midwestern: The Burden of Normality

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Re: On Being Midwestern: The Burden of Normality

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Nice read! My wife and I just moved to Urbana/Champaign Illinois 4 months ago for my new job, and the Midwest really is different (from Arizona and California where we lived before). People are really nice, food is great, very inexpensive place to live, and there is real natural beauty here if you look for it. Anyways, we are delighted with this area.

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Re: On Being Midwestern: The Burden of Normality

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> ...humility is one of those words, like authenticity or (lately) resistance, that serves mainly to advertise the absence of the thing named... Humility is having a realistic view of your own abilities and worth while being OK with it. It's not a vacuum of self-worth or something. We have other words for that. To illustrate, it's not humble for LeBron James to say he's bad at basketball. It would be humble for him t…

I think it just meant that someone who claims to be humble is probably bragging. Not that no one is humble.

Re: On Being Midwestern: The Burden of Normality

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Just moved out of the midwest.. I was originally from the East coast and moved back. I'll just say this, being a minority, I was shocked at how much contempt people had towards middle-easterners and black people. On numerous occasions people have said they've been "dirtying up the neighborhoods which is why they moved to another burb... they need to take better care of their lawns, etc". Out of all the companies that…

Out of all the companies that I've worked in the midwest, I've ever had a co-worker that was a black software engineer.

The only black software engineer I’ve worked with (as in, on my team and writes code) since moving was the guy I hired. And I live in Seattle and I’ve worked at Microsoft. It’s a big shock moving from Indiana, where I’d had several black coworkers over the years. So I’ll see your Midwestern Rednecks anecdote, and raise you a Coastal Snobs Shocked That Midwest Has Internet.

i've had more arguments in the midwest with people that think tesla is a POS company for not following the rules.

Buncha rubes, not going gaga over an unprofitable company getting Federal subsidies so that rich people can buy new toys. So you’re saying you absolutley lack the ability to fathom why someone might not share your enthusiasm?

Re: On Being Midwestern: The Burden of Normality

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Just moved out of the midwest.. I was originally from the East coast and moved back. I'll just say this, being a minority, I was shocked at how much contempt people had towards middle-easterners and black people. On numerous occasions people have said they've been "dirtying up the neighborhoods which is why they moved to another burb... they need to take better care of their lawns, etc". Out of all the companies that…

Out of all the companies that I've worked in the midwest, I've ever had a co-worker that was a black software engineer. The only black software engineer I’ve worked with (as in, on my team and writes code) since moving was the guy I hired. And I live in Seattle and I’ve worked at Microsoft. It’s a big shock moving from Indiana, where I’d had several black coworkers over the years. So I’ll see your Midwestern Rednecks…

Why'd you move out of Indiana my friend?

|So you’re saying you absolutley lack the ability to fathom why someone might not share your enthusiasm?

Also I can empathize why people are against Tesla, it's just the general mindset in the midwest when it comes to new technologies. There's no wrong or right it's just the way life is out there.

Re: On Being Midwestern: The Burden of Normality

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post #42

> ...humility is one of those words, like authenticity or (lately) resistance, that serves mainly to advertise the absence of the thing named... Humility is having a realistic view of your own abilities and worth while being OK with it. It's not a vacuum of self-worth or something. We have other words for that. To illustrate, it's not humble for LeBron James to say he's bad at basketball. It would be humble for him t…

I think it just meant that someone who claims to be humble is probably bragging. Not that no one is humble.

Yes like the standard award acceptance speech "I feel so humbled..."

Re: On Being Midwestern: The Burden of Normality

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Just moved out of the midwest.. I was originally from the East coast and moved back. I'll just say this, being a minority, I was shocked at how much contempt people had towards middle-easterners and black people. On numerous occasions people have said they've been "dirtying up the neighborhoods which is why they moved to another burb... they need to take better care of their lawns, etc". Out of all the companies that…

>There's a reason why Chicago was the only major city to drop in population the last couple of years. There aren't that many interesting projects happening, it's not conducive to start-ups I would say it has more to do with the Illinois rather than the city itself. People are leaving Illinois, not just Chicago. Also, the startup culture is different in Chicago but to say there there aren't that many interesting proje…

|There is a ton of interesting work in the finance sector.

I agree.. and I'd probably recommend any friends who were planning on moving to Chicago to focus on that area as there are a ton of really good financial companies.

Re: On Being Midwestern: The Burden of Normality

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Out of all the companies that I've worked in the midwest, I've ever had a co-worker that was a black software engineer. The only black software engineer I’ve worked with (as in, on my team and writes code) since moving was the guy I hired. And I live in Seattle and I’ve worked at Microsoft. It’s a big shock moving from Indiana, where I’d had several black coworkers over the years. So I’ll see your Midwestern Rednecks…

Why'd you move out of Indiana my friend? |So you’re saying you absolutley lack the ability to fathom why someone might not share your enthusiasm? Also I can empathize why people are against Tesla, it's just the general mindset in the midwest when it comes to new technologies. There's no wrong or right it's just the way life is out there.

One -27F January day, I looked at my wife and said, “this is America, and we don’t have to live like this.” So we moved to North Carolina, then eventually got a gig with Microsoft. Haven’t worked at Microsoft in twelve years, but Seattle area suits us so we never left.

Also I can empathize why people are against Tesla, it's just the general mindset in the midwest when it comes to new technologies.

More than just the politics are conservative. :-)

Re: On Being Midwestern: The Burden of Normality

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Just moved out of the midwest.. I was originally from the East coast and moved back. I'll just say this, being a minority, I was shocked at how much contempt people had towards middle-easterners and black people. On numerous occasions people have said they've been "dirtying up the neighborhoods which is why they moved to another burb... they need to take better care of their lawns, etc". Out of all the companies that…

I've worked in the Chicago area most of my career. I've had multiple Indian, Asian, Black, and Women developers on my teams. My current team has two Indian people, one woman, and one Asian guy, and we only have 7 people on our team right now. I agree that the pay and number of opportunities aren't that amazing here, though. I've been fighting that for a long time.

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Re: On Being Midwestern: The Burden of Normality

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Speaking as a Midwesterener, it was a valiant attempt to examine the Midwest without descending into contempt and cliches, but alas, it ultimately failed, and failed hard . Partial credit given for making it for a few paragraphs before descending into the usual trite analysis.

Speaking also as a Midwesterner, I would disagree. I was born and raised in Michigan, and have not really left much other than to couch hop and envy the lives of my friends who've moved out to the coast. I feel that the contempt the author descends into is self-inflicted, and may representative of the culture and authors midwestern upbringing. From what I've observed, midwesterners are brutally humble, almost to a fa…

No one ever thinks about the mountain West/Southwest, what's our stereotype?
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