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Re: All 500 of the world's top 500 supercomputers are running Linux

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Post by GlennS » Wed, Nov 15, 2017, 10:22 PM UTC

vram22 wrote: post #24

rootbear wrote: post #19

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When I visited Finland for this year's Worldcon (SF convention) I learned that all Finns learn Finnish and Swedish, the two official languages of Finland. Knowing some German, I found the Swedish street signs more helpful than the Finnish ones!

:) Yes, since Swedish is a Germanic language, I suppose. I know a bit of German too, and have noticed that when I read words in Scandinavian languages, I can sometimes guess what they mean, due to their being similar to corresponding German words. Had been reading on Wikipedia about different human languages and their backgrounds and histories a while ago, and was interested to see that Finnish and Hungarian had stuf…

You also appear to know English, another Germanic language.

Re: All 500 of the world's top 500 supercomputers are running Linux

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Post by PeachPlum » Wed, Nov 15, 2017, 10:29 PM UTC

pcunite wrote: post #26

PeachPlum wrote: post #17

Ronald Minnich (if you don't know him see [1]) comments : [1] https://share-ng.sandia.gov/news/resources/news_releases/san... ----------------- "The semiannual TOP500 Supercomputer List was released yesterday. It also shows that China now claims 202 systems within the TOP500, while the United States claims 143 systems." My fellow Americans: Did you ever want to directly experience the transition to being a Tier 2 cou…

Trump is not the problem. It is all the non-elected dark figures behind it all.

I wanted to fully quote Ron because they're his feelings and I think that's the only fair thing to do. He's my friend (this is from Facebook (a public post so I don't feel it is violating any trust))

Re: All 500 of the world's top 500 supercomputers are running Linux

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Post by ghaff » Wed, Nov 15, 2017, 10:30 PM UTC

linarism wrote: post #2

Serious question (not in IT), what else can they run?

In recent history, a fair bit of AIX on IBM Power. Further back, lots of other Unix variants and other vendor-specific OSs.

Re: All 500 of the world's top 500 supercomputers are running Linux

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Post by derefr » Wed, Nov 15, 2017, 10:31 PM UTC

whataretensors wrote: post #28

zanny wrote: post #21

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I don't think its so much a shame that Linus isn't a billionaire than it is we have billionaires at all. There is limited rational or ethical reason for one human being to accumulate so much centralized wealth. There is being rewarded for hard work / skill / innovation and there is exploiting people to become rich, and the line between those is very hard to distinguish when talking about individuals making more than…

Blame the SEC for this one. Their accredited investor regulation gave the future to the rich. Seed round, series A, B, C, etc should be a vehicle for class mobility. Instead it's a way for the rich and powerful to accumulate more wealth. With YC and other incubators acting as a filter for where investors should put money, it matters more which zipcode you were born into than your overall intelligence and creativity.…

Investor accreditation makes sense (for now.) Giving poor people free access to untested-investment-vehicle-X is basically the same as giving them over-the-counter access to scheduled drugs. Mistakes will be made, and the people making them—lacking resources as they do—won't be able to recover from them.

Right now, we're spending a lot of money trying to figure out how to get people out of these ruts. (Free housing seems to be helpful.) Creating more ways for people to get themselves into them seems ill-thought-out.

On the other hand (to pile tangent upon tangent), something like UBI would neatly fix the "problem" that investor accreditation addresses, because it would mean that even the poorest people would have a cushion in case their investments don't work out.

Re: All 500 of the world's top 500 supercomputers are running Linux

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Post by dgut » Wed, Nov 15, 2017, 10:31 PM UTC

whataretensors wrote: post #28

zanny wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think its so much a shame that Linus isn't a billionaire than it is we have billionaires at all. There is limited rational or ethical reason for one human being to accumulate so much centralized wealth. There is being rewarded for hard work / skill / innovation and there is exploiting people to become rich, and the line between those is very hard to distinguish when talking about individuals making more than…

Blame the SEC for this one. Their accredited investor regulation gave the future to the rich. Seed round, series A, B, C, etc should be a vehicle for class mobility. Instead it's a way for the rich and powerful to accumulate more wealth. With YC and other incubators acting as a filter for where investors should put money, it matters more which zipcode you were born into than your overall intelligence and creativity.…

I definitely believe ICOs are the future of funding. We are at a premature stage, but as the ecosystem matures we'll see a lot of great things come out of it unless the SEC and whatnot decide to nuke it.

For instance, until now ICOs have been able to raise money without a prototype in hand, this I believe will change.

Re: All 500 of the world's top 500 supercomputers are running Linux

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Post by moomin » Wed, Nov 15, 2017, 10:32 PM UTC

bilkoo wrote: post #22

vram22 wrote: post #12

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Interesting, that site says his background is actually Swedish(-speaking, at least). >Born Linus Benedict Torvalds on December 28, 1969 in Helsinki, Finland, Torvalds is the son of journalists Ana and Nils Torvalds who belong to the Swedish-speaking minority.

A lot of Finns speak Swedish as their mother tongue https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish-speaking_population_of...

Including Sibelius and Jansonn.

Re: All 500 of the world's top 500 supercomputers are running Linux

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Post by bearbearbear » Wed, Nov 15, 2017, 10:37 PM UTC

b_emery wrote: post #4

A win for open source. I was just thinking the other day that it's a shame that Linus is not a billionaire. Seems he's doing just fine however: "Finnish-American software engineer and hacker Linus Torvalds has as estimated net worth of $150 million and an estimated annual salary of $10 million. He earned his net worth as the principal force behind the development of the Linux kernel." Source: https://www.therichest.c…

Please keep in mind however that many of the world's "supercomputers" are simply "bigger dick" projects where some government or organization slapped a few thousand blades into a rack and connected them with fiber crossbars so they could say they "built a supercomptuer."

And also that there's no standardized definition of what a "supercomputer" is.

My iPhone is not a "supercomputer" even though it has thousands of times more computing power than a Cray 1, which is considered a "supercomputer."

Re: All 500 of the world's top 500 supercomputers are running Linux

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Nov 15, 2017, 10:37 PM UTC

derefr wrote: post #34

whataretensors wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Blame the SEC for this one. Their accredited investor regulation gave the future to the rich. Seed round, series A, B, C, etc should be a vehicle for class mobility. Instead it's a way for the rich and powerful to accumulate more wealth. With YC and other incubators acting as a filter for where investors should put money, it matters more which zipcode you were born into than your overall intelligence and creativity.…

Investor accreditation makes sense (for now.) Giving poor people free access to untested-investment-vehicle-X is basically the same as giving them over-the-counter access to scheduled drugs. Mistakes will be made, and the people making them—lacking resources as they do—won't be able to recover from them. Right now, we're spending a lot of money trying to figure out how to get people out of these ruts. (Free housing s…

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Re: All 500 of the world's top 500 supercomputers are running Linux

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Post by jrs95 » Wed, Nov 15, 2017, 10:38 PM UTC

derefr wrote: post #34

whataretensors wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Blame the SEC for this one. Their accredited investor regulation gave the future to the rich. Seed round, series A, B, C, etc should be a vehicle for class mobility. Instead it's a way for the rich and powerful to accumulate more wealth. With YC and other incubators acting as a filter for where investors should put money, it matters more which zipcode you were born into than your overall intelligence and creativity.…

Investor accreditation makes sense (for now.) Giving poor people free access to untested-investment-vehicle-X is basically the same as giving them over-the-counter access to scheduled drugs. Mistakes will be made, and the people making them—lacking resources as they do—won't be able to recover from them. Right now, we're spending a lot of money trying to figure out how to get people out of these ruts. (Free housing s…

It's not about poor people. A huge number of middle class people aren't accredited investors. But they could easily put a small sum into a high risk investment and potentially benefit greatly from it. Bitcoin is a decent example of this. There aren't any accredited investors regulations, and I highly doubt there's hardly anyone who bought so much of it that they'd go bankrupt if it became worth $0

Re: All 500 of the world's top 500 supercomputers are running Linux

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Post by EthereumDublin » Wed, Nov 15, 2017, 10:39 PM UTC

I think it's hilarious that so many run CentOS instead of RHEL. Redhat has managed to make their product worse than free with their licensing bullshit.