The downside: the cost for replacing a broken Retina display of the MacBook Pro are obscene.
The best laptop ever made
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#202I knew what laptop Marco would be talking about before I clicked on the link. Perhaps that says something about Marco, but I have the feeling it's almost certainly about how widely-lauded the old rMBP was, and still clearly is. Apple got so many things right with it, because all the design choices made sense , for exactly the reasons Marco gives. The design choices being made at the top of Apple no longer make sense.…
The late 2014 rMBP's were the last of the good ones. After that they put the stupid "force touch" trackpads in them, which have slightly but perceptibly worse mechanical response to being clicked. I still miss my 2014's trackpad all the time.
I don't know, the force-touch pad is maybe my favorite hardware feature of my 2015 MBP (my first Mac actually). Being able to use the same amount of force to click regardless of finger position is really something.
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#203Earlier quoted context omitted.
DongleGate™ arguably started (and was likely internally fomented) with this edition of the MacBook Pro. This was the first MacBook Pro to exclude an ethernet port, and when Desktop Support at my company handed it to me, I looked at it and asked them what the fuck was I supposed to do about it? They shrugged, threw up their hands and left ( I was the prima donna that asked for the Mac, figure it out asshole), and so I…
DongleGate is a real thing, I'm actually putting off getting a new MPB until I get my head around what I can and cannot use different USB-C connectors for, but honestly dropping wired ethernet along with the optical drive was the right thing to do. There has to be a balance between features on the device and the number of people that will end up ever using them. Hardly anyone uses wired ethernet these days, so expect…
Hardly anyone at home, maybe. I still plug my desktop into wired at home, and the vast majority of computers at work have wired dock stations that work so much better than the WiFi in the building.
I don’t think you can honestly say hardly anyone uses wired Ethernet.
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#204Earlier quoted context omitted.
To me, the only downside is trackpad - it's too large and palm rejection ain't working perfectly. Keyboard is better, screen is better, ports and touchbar - neutral.
I wouldn't say it's the only downside, but it's my #1 complaint about the new MBP as well - the trackpad is bigger, which is not useful at all, and I constantly have problems with it. Especially when trying to use things like 3-finger drag, or 2-finger scroll, it feels like half the time it's not working properly. It completely removes the spontaneity / "no thinking about it" quality of what was once the literally be…
It IS incredibly frustrating. And I dont understand, Why Apple has kept the keyboard the same size across both MBP, but not the track pad. The MBP 13 track pad size on MBP15 would be perfect.
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#205I feel like the odd one out. I buy a new MBP every 12-18 months (have owned all Intel generations), use my MBP for hours every day, and think the latest is by far the best. Being able to charge on either side is a big deal for me as I move around a lot, plus being able to use 30W USB-C power packs and third party chargers (e.g. Anker) without fear of fire.. a massive boon for me, especially as my phone and Nintendo S…
Yep. I love my late 2013 15" (typing on it now), but also use a late 2016. They're both great machines, and there were controversial things about the 2012-era models at the time (soldered RAM, proprietary PCI connector for the SSD (I don't believe there was a standard for this at the time), no ethernet, the usual chiclet keyboard qualms, etc.) and that Marco doesn't mention those today actually bodes well for the lat…
Because most of these here aren't design Changes. They are technical. You could have fitted all these technical improvement in the previous MBP as well.
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#206This is the most elegant critique to the current line of Macs I've read so far. I hope it reaches the right eyes and ears. While Steve Jobs was unique, I believe Apple has the right people to continue delivering the same great products. They just need to let them do their jobs. This said, I'm looking forward to test a Pixel 2 Chromebook.
This is the most elegant critique to the current line of Macs I've read so far. I hope it reaches the right eyes and ears. I tried a 12" MacBook. It was a gorgeous machine and wildly fast given its size. But its trackpad is a grotesque monstrosity, and while I writing I too often activated it by accident, flinging the cursor to some distant spot by accident. Then I'd have to stop, recover, and reset. I can't figure o…
That is exactly the problem with current Apple, it felt like they are doing this for the sake of it, not because it is in any case better.
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#207Every year I ponder getting a new laptop to replace my mid-2012 MacBook Pro. Every year I don't. Instead I wipe the hard drive, reinstall the OS, and I have a brand new machine. Even the battery is still going strong 5.5 years into ownership. This article hit the nail on the head. The laptop fulfills every need I have better than anything else I've tried.
Curious why you wipe the hard drive instead of upgrading. Of course, I'm fairly certain it's because you've tried that and had issues just like many users do. I'm just wondering what they are and how people justify "wipe and reinstall" (instead of updating the OS) whenever a new version of macOS is released.
That's absolutely why. Every time I try to just use the "Install macOS $VERSION" app, my new installation seems slow and buggy, and I swear some of my files disappear.
But if I backup everything and then wipe the drive, things work perfect. I also get the additional benefit of only adding back the programs/files/settings I actually use, so I use it as a "spring cleaning" to clear out all the cruft that accumulates during the previous year.
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#208It's odd that this was posted as I was thinking along these lines the other day. I have a 2012 Retina 15". The first generation. I spec'd it out at the time hoping for it to last me at least a few years. From 2015 I've been eyeing off every new release of Macbook Pro thinking "yeah this time I'll upgrade" but then I realise there is actually nothing wrong with my current one. Like, nothing at all. I realise the batte…
After 1000 cycles or after 4 years, just have the battery replaced by Apple for $199 + taxes, then you will have a good macbook pro, as apple will replace the keyboard and trackpad, along with the battery for $199.
>as apple will replace the keyboard and trackpad, along with the battery for $199.
Is this standard for all MacBook?
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#209Agreed. I've not looked forward to new Macbooks since around that era.
The new ones are just horrible and more expensive. The touchbar does zero for me. So much junk for higher price and little utility.
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#210We are two years in since the new MBP, and likely three years before we see a new model. ( Might not be a new design )
Very rarely have we doubt and not see the gain from an Apple transition two years in.
USB-C: I dont have problem with bringing in every connection to one standard or Apple dont ship iPhone with USB-C yet. These are all timing problem that will be solved one day. I have problem with USB-C itself. The quality, standard, and execution of USB-C in the public market with lots of different standard of cables that doesn't support PD or whatever feature. It is basically shit. At the moment I just wish they make a new version called USB-D and clean things up, for both the Transfer spec and the plug.
Keyboard: While most do like the bigger keys, it is still no where near as good as the old MBP. And there is a 5% chances ( The amount of new MBP repair due to Keyboard failure ) that the most important input devices on your Notebook does not work. And the repair cost $799. The 2nd revision of the Keyboard tries to solves the key travel problem by making a bigger noise, trying to trick your brain that you have typed and "felt" it. Cant we just have a extra 1mm thick MBP that has much better keyboard and cheaper to repair, or even no need to repair?
TouchPad: As mentioned, no one has yet find a use case as to why we need such a large touchpad on MBP 15. Apple manage to keep the keyboard same size in both MBP, but not the touchpad. It frustrate you by various misfire from time to time, which was NEVER an issue with previous MBP.
Touchbar: It is useless, and does not work 100% of the time. Which align with Apple's new Keyboard design very well. But it doesn't annoys me since I rarely use it for anything other then those default keys. Trying to work with it for 2 years, it never clicked.
But I dont think any of these blog from Marco or rant in Reddit or HN matters. Tim Cook is much more of an Data / Number person. And the recent quarter shows there are more people buying the Mac then ever.
I miss Steve, i think he better then anyone else understand what the users need, and when to make the call or jump. The Apple now is trying to continue that way, but it is different. And it will never be the same.