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Rethinking 'Fuck You' money

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Re: Rethinking 'Fuck You' money

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post #38

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Come back and tell me about dumping all your money into tax-free municipal bonds in two years.

What is the reasoning behind your comment?

Here's one recent link (far from the only long-form article I've read; reminds me of some of the articles I read before the tech and housing bubbles burst):

http://www.city-journal.org/2010/20_2_municipal-bonds.html

Re: Rethinking 'Fuck You' money

#112

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Not when we're in a great worldwide depression. When the US baby boomers, the world's biggest/baddest consumers, are retiring or being too expensive to be hired. When automation/free software have permanently reduced human worker needs. When the developed countries - the ones with trillions of debt and aging population - have willingly given up their factories to the emerging countries, and are desperately searching…

I get sick & tired of all this doom talk about a worldwide depression. It's depressing. If you play it smart then this 'depression' is an opportunity in disguise, more of a correction than a true depression. The 1929 stock market crash set the stage for World War II, and it took until well after World War II before the world had finally recovered from it. That was a depression. The current situation is, compared to t…

During the depression people lived in shacks made of cardboard, did have any money for clothing or even toilet paper and where in many cases starving.

And you are telling me we are in a depression now?

Re: Rethinking 'Fuck You' money

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post #103
post #62

If you ask me, the best way to invest the $2 million mentioned in the article in order to retire comfortably would be rental property. Take your $2 million and buy four $500K houses (or eight $250K houses, or whatever's appropriate). Pay an agent to take care of them, or do it yourself, depending on how much involvement you want. That should yield maybe $8,000 a month in rent, which after you've taken care of all the…

Improvement on that is avoid family housing and go for industrial/commercial. You can get a quality property with minimal leverage for your $2million. You will get a blue chip tenant like a national retailer or even a government department, and they'll sign a 10 year lease with mandated, upwards only, CPI-indexed increases each year. You won't even have to fork over 8-10% on a property manager because the tenant will…

Commercial property is much more sensitive to cyclical downturns than family housing. 10 or 15 year leases are mostly in either downtown, prime location property (with very limited supply) or in new developments, where you only get them once. After that you're left to the market.

As usual, I think diversification if best for a stable portfolio. Mix various types of property, in various locations with various target markets, and then real estate is very sensible investment option.

Re: Rethinking 'Fuck You' money

#114
post #7

what's the moral of this story? you most likely, even if you make a good amount of money, will not escape the anxiety associated with money. or, escaping the anxiety associated with money is not accomplished by making money. the idea of fuck you money is for kids. being able to say fuck you to anyone is more about what you've got on the inside than what you've got on the outside.

being able to say fuck you to anyone is more about what you've got on the inside than what you've got on the outside. Sure, but the consequences will be different.

"Sure, but the consequences will be different."

Well I guess that with that reply you missed the whole point of the comment...

Re: Rethinking 'Fuck You' money

#115
Personally, I'm not at all motivated by money so long as I can pay the bills and have some modest standard of living. If I had been interested in accumulating money I would have taken a quite different career path.

Re: Rethinking 'Fuck You' money

#116
post #45

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Why don't you just put your money in a global index fund instead? No one forces you Americans to invest your savings in your own country..in fact, that seems like a pretty bad idea in the first place, since this means that when the economy is bad and it is hard to find jobs is the same time it is a very bad idea to take money out of your investments. Seems pretty obvious to me that the American economy as a whole has…

Which country? Europe is worse-off than America, China likely has their own bubble. Japan has been in a funk for 20 years. Russia has recently been cracking down on political freedoms in a worrisome way, there's no guarantee that you'll be able to take your money out once you put it in. Same for many Latin American countries.

>Europe is worse-off than America

Citation and qualification needed (e.g. Switzerland certainly isn't worse off than America).

Re: Rethinking 'Fuck You' money

#117

A very easy solution to this: Go live in a cheaper country. Go now, before the heavily debted countries lock down money transfers (In which case, buy gold/silver)

I have a counter solution: go to a more expensive country to live. Things will cost more but the pay will be higher. It's probably going to have a lot of other advantages as well.

You never want to be in a race to the bottom.

Re: Rethinking 'Fuck You' money

#118
post #35

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Lol. I'd upload my passport but that's silly. Europe is not exactly cheap.

Europe includes such countries as Iceland, Ukraine and Romania

ffs man, I'm with you on the US not being the place to be at the moment but Romania??? If you're going to call someone out for not being traveled you should at least avoid listing places you clearly haven't been to yourself (if you have been there and still recommend it then you have some pretty low standards. Don't expect anyone else to adopt them on purpose).

Re: Rethinking 'Fuck You' money

#119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get sick & tired of all this doom talk about a worldwide depression. It's depressing. If you play it smart then this 'depression' is an opportunity in disguise, more of a correction than a true depression. The 1929 stock market crash set the stage for World War II, and it took until well after World War II before the world had finally recovered from it. That was a depression. The current situation is, compared to t…

During the depression people lived in shacks made of cardboard, did have any money for clothing or even toilet paper and where in many cases starving. And you are telling me we are in a depression now?

No, but I think you replied to the wrong entry.

Re: Rethinking 'Fuck You' money

#120
ok, thats all nice, but if author is so much worried about his financial perspectives in US, he should look at other markets. Hey in Asia, even somewhere Europe after some research you can easily find that 6-8% safe investment opportunities. So retirement with 2M is still no problem if you are willing to open your eyes, and see that there is something going on outside US.
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