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Re: Visual Studio Live Share

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Personally I'd find it irritating, as I do with Google Docs. This is a neat gimmick but I don't think it'll revolutionise anything or end up being the status quo in the future.

Well Google Docs still is less irritating than screensharing what you are doing in Google Docs via Skype.

I'll give you that :)

Re: Visual Studio Live Share

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PM on the Visual Studio Live Share team here. Thanks for posting! We're really excited to hear folks thoughts about this experience, how it can help improve their existing team collaboration workflows, and how we can continue to improve/learn. So please sign up and/or let us know what you think :) We've heard pretty loud and clear that developers want better collaboration tools, without needing to switch editors, wit…

It would have been even better to include at least some idea of the expected release time or availability of the preview. It's hard to believe there is so much detail on the feature set, a big website to promote this and nobody at Microsoft has any certainty when this might be out.

We will be releasing a private preview of the feature early in 2018.

You can sign up for it here: http://landinghub.visualstudio.com/vsliveshare

Re: Visual Studio Live Share

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PM on the Visual Studio Live Share team here. Thanks for posting! We're really excited to hear folks thoughts about this experience, how it can help improve their existing team collaboration workflows, and how we can continue to improve/learn. So please sign up and/or let us know what you think :) We've heard pretty loud and clear that developers want better collaboration tools, without needing to switch editors, wit…

This looks pretty amazing. Question: if two people are sharing code and one of them hits "Build", whose machine builds the project?

Re: Visual Studio Live Share

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Hey there! Another PM on Visual Studio Live Share here. Security is absolutely something we are designing for. Microsoft will not be collecting data on the code. The code is not stored or uploaded in the cloud in any way. Rather, it is just a connection that is established between you and the teammate you are sharing with. There's more details in the FAQ here: https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/supporting/live-share-…

That FAQ seems fairly vague - what I'm looking for is simply how connections are established - can I simply point the thing at another copy of VSCode running in my LAN? Or do I have to involve Microsoft servers on the internet for session setup? Is the connection directly between us or via an MS server? What encryption is performed and where? Can a Microsoft employee or someone who compromises them theorically gain a…

PM from MS here. Authentication and authorization is managed by a cloud service but your code is not persisted in the cloud. The service optimizes for the most high perf connection possible via an encrypted channel with the cloud being one option. We intend to allow customers to lock down their invite links as well as they so choose.

Re: Visual Studio Live Share

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PM on the Visual Studio Live Share team here. Thanks for posting! We're really excited to hear folks thoughts about this experience, how it can help improve their existing team collaboration workflows, and how we can continue to improve/learn. So please sign up and/or let us know what you think :) We've heard pretty loud and clear that developers want better collaboration tools, without needing to switch editors, wit…

Wondering what will be the final pricing of this feature? It looks too good to be available for free for any VS/VSCode user.

Surely they're not incurring much costs with this feature if they're just using Microsoft servers for the initial WebRTC handshake? That's what Atom's recently announced Teletype feature does at least: https://blog.atom.io/2017/11/15/code-together-in-real-time-w...

Re: Visual Studio Live Share

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PM on the Visual Studio Live Share team here. Thanks for posting! We're really excited to hear folks thoughts about this experience, how it can help improve their existing team collaboration workflows, and how we can continue to improve/learn. So please sign up and/or let us know what you think :) We've heard pretty loud and clear that developers want better collaboration tools, without needing to switch editors, wit…

This looks pretty amazing. Question: if two people are sharing code and one of them hits "Build", whose machine builds the project?

Great question! The project would be built on the machine of the developer who initiated the Live Share session. That developer is effectively the "owner" of the session, and all developers who join the session are connecting their editor/IDE to theirs, and remoting certain editing/building/debugging operations. This allows the participants to fully collaborate, investigate/explore the project independently, but without incurring additional environment/setup requirements simply to get started.

We want the act of providing feedback/advice/etc. to each other to be as lightweight/frictionless as possible. Ideally, it would be so easy to collaborate, that it becomes harder for teams _not_ to do it :)

Re: Visual Studio Live Share

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Please, please make a headless mode for this! My ideal use case would be to run this on a development VM and be able to connect to it with my VS Code and debug live on the VM. This would be a much better experience than rsync-ing your changes on every run.

Yes please, that would be awesome! I have a workstation that I rdp into from all over the world in order to do development in VS and the experience is terrible when I am on the other side of the world because of high latencies and low bandwidth link. Being able to connect to the workstation's VS directly and edit files + start debugging sessions remotely, that would be fantastic!

Re: Visual Studio Live Share

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PM on the Visual Studio Live Share team here. Thanks for posting! We're really excited to hear folks thoughts about this experience, how it can help improve their existing team collaboration workflows, and how we can continue to improve/learn. So please sign up and/or let us know what you think :) We've heard pretty loud and clear that developers want better collaboration tools, without needing to switch editors, wit…

This looks pretty amazing. Question: if two people are sharing code and one of them hits "Build", whose machine builds the project?

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Re: Visual Studio Live Share

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Privacy concerns: how is a public link more secure than a Skype screen share?

And what exactly gets associated to the link? Is it a tunnel straight into my computer? Is it pushing my VS workspace somewhere?

More details please. This seems more appropriate for getting help on small, isolated code snippets rather than collaborating on a project.

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