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Serenity?
More like Equilibrium, given the effects of lithium. Of course, we are talking about really small doses. It does beg the question though. If small doses are effective, why do people only get prescribed massively higher doses?
I must admit, I railed against adding Flouride for many years, mostly from a liberty / choice perspective, before finally accepting almost a century of scientific evidence and becoming a supporter. I need to know more about the science, both positive and negative effects, before doing the same here, but it is a nifty precendent. As with fluoride, I wouldn't want my community to be the first to test it - perhaps if I…
That and systemic reviews such as the York review (http://www.york.ac.uk/inst/crd/pdf/summary.pdf) which basically states there has been very little high-quality studies done on the effects of water fluoridation.
Admittedly that systemic review was released in 2000, and unfortunately for conspiracy theorists the York review concluded there may be a slight benefit and at worst a slight disbenefit to water fluoridation, but in their executive summary they did say:
"Given the level of interest surrounding the issue of public water fluoridation, it is surprising to find that little high quality research has been undertaken"
That's almost half a century since we've been touting the 'scientifically proven' benefits of water fluoridation, which I just find stunning.
So unlike yourself I'm very unimpressed with the scientific evidence, and have come to the conclusion that a half-baked health policy was implemented in an age of questionable scientific rigour.
Human and establishment tendency to refuse to admit fault or error has guaranteed this rather flaky practice continues in many parts of the west today.
I must admit, I railed against adding Flouride for many years, mostly from a liberty / choice perspective, before finally accepting almost a century of scientific evidence and becoming a supporter. I need to know more about the science, both positive and negative effects, before doing the same here, but it is a nifty precendent. As with fluoride, I wouldn't want my community to be the first to test it - perhaps if I…
At the levels they are talking about, it seems like there are communities who for decades or longer have been "testing" drinking water with the proposed levels of lithium.
Of course, that's assuming that the deliberately introduced lithium is in the same form, with the same chemical availability. I would hope that would be a requirement if anyone actually decided to try and do this.
Seems more like professional-grade trolling than a serious suggestion. Still, on the offchance they do start doing it, I'll be first in line for rainwater tanks, so I can protect the purity of my precious bodily fluids.
Your precious bodily fluids are about as impure as it gets. I mean, dude- what other aqueous solution can you think of that's 80% water and can stand on it's own like a pair of month-old socks?
Regarding the success story provided as precedent: I don't know the quantities involved, but if it is known that swallowing a toothpaste tube's worth of fluoride can kill a child, I'm not comfortable with the idea of tainting the drinking water with even "safe" amounts of this poison just so it will briefly pass by your teeth in its way to your digestive tract. Sounds reckless and extremely disrespectful to me. http:…
... swallowing a toothpaste tube's worth of fluoride can kill a child ... Er. That's a pretty big logical fallacy. Almost every substance ingested in huge quantities is lethal, including salt and caffeine.
If they're going to make you drink something daily for a lifetime without your informed consent, I expect some reason better than cutting down a few bucks of dental care expenses.
The fluoride is in enough concentration to be effective in the brief time it passes through your mouth (that's the idea, isn't it? Or is it supposed to somehow work systemically after ingested?). A tube of toothpaste will last a few weeks. There is, in principle, reason for concern. To claim it's scientifically proven to be safe you need lifetime double-blind studies controlling for any pernicious effects, which they obviously didn't run before starting this. A shame, considering there's apparently plenty of people who would be happy as uncompensated guinea pigs.
Regarding the success story provided as precedent: I don't know the quantities involved, but if it is known that swallowing a toothpaste tube's worth of fluoride can kill a child, I'm not comfortable with the idea of tainting the drinking water with even "safe" amounts of this poison just so it will briefly pass by your teeth in its way to your digestive tract. Sounds reckless and extremely disrespectful to me. http:…
So I think what you're trying to say is that it's an international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids?
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So I think what you're trying to say is that it's an international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids?
Anytime anybody brings up fluoride somebody else brings up Dr. StrangeLove, it might as well be a knock knock joke. I wish people would actually look into the science. People thought DDT was unquestionably great too.
"One person's right to drink lithium-free water is no greater than another's right to drink lithium-enhanced water." Um... If you feel this strongly about it, then go put lithium in your water. Don't make me buy bottled water. I've been on lithium before. I'd prefer to spend the rest of my life as far away from ingesting it as possible.
I've been on lithium before. I'd prefer to spend the rest of my life as far away from ingesting it as possible. Care to explain?
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I've been on lithium before. I'd prefer to spend the rest of my life as far away from ingesting it as possible. Care to explain?
I won't speak for him but I've been on it before for the treatment of bipolar disorder. It works for some people. It didn't work for me - too poisonous - and I'm on something else now. But I don't blame his reaction; there were horrible side effects.
By the way, what are you on now?