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Re: The fake Facebook profile industry

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Post by jpalomaki »

scraft wrote: post #49

1. I got told many years ago, that when you get that crazily bad emails, where it claims to be from some official source, but there are spelling mistakes, the return email address is obviously wrong, grammer is terrible, etc. the sort where it is so completely obviously it is a scam - often this is done on purpose, they aren't intereseting >99% of people who can spot a scam, they are interested in the 2. Separately t…

This is ”pre AI world”. Once scammers catch up with tech, things will change. When they learn to automate the scamming they can also afford to target people with low probability of falling into scam. This will lead to scam that is harder to detect and where the amounts are smaller (instead of going for the big fish, you can build on volume).

The opportunities are endless. Just think for example the latest developments on speech synthesis (voice transfer). Improvements in CGI will allow creating believable fake videos. Mobile phones with fancy camera tech will allow 3d scans of people faces.

Re: The fake Facebook profile industry

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Post by muninn_ »

Spearchucker wrote: post #228
sillysaurus3 wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's shocking how easy it is to become a liar without missing a beat. If they slipped and someone caught them lying, it would become exponentially worse. Bad idea. But they should be proud of their sexuality. Whether it's BDSM or hotwifing or whatever strange kink, who cares? It's the same as shaming someone for being gay. I dislike that we have to be so Victorian about sex. It's the social climate we live in, but...…

"I dislike that we have to be so Victorian about sex. It's the social climate we live in, but... Why?" It's religion. It teaches roughly 4 bn† people that sex is dirty, that nakedness is shameful, and that talking about it's acts and/or requisite body parts is taboo. † According to Wikipedia 2.4 billion Christians, and 1.6 billion Muslims.

Don’t just single out Christians and Muslims. Hindus have arranged marriages, for example. I see that as yet another form of sexual repression.

Re: The fake Facebook profile industry

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Post by astura »

everybodyknows wrote: post #205
tmpz22 wrote: post #131

Throwaway to share a valuable perspective. My dad is a chronic target for scammers, and falls for them at a rate where I can only think it intentional on some level. He'll allow fake MSPs to install programs as root, on the same machine he does banking and legal on. He'll call numbers when strange javascript alerts tell him he has a virus. He'll then pay people to "remove" said malware, giving them full access to the…

I'd start looking for an attorney who's familiar with elder abuse situations and can tell you about your options. If you can gather the right evidence, something can be done.

What does this even mean? Being concerned your dad may fall for scams doesn't mean you should talk to an elder abuse attorney???

1) Someone elderly being scammed by randos is not elder abuse.

2) if there is a scam your "elder abuse attorney" is not going to be able to do any more than the police considering the vast majority of these scams are from overseas.

Re: The fake Facebook profile industry

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Post by muninn_ »

friendzis wrote: post #226
WhitneyLand wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think your situation is very much connected to the current wave of revelations of wrong doing against (mostly) women. Every time one of these celebrities denies a true accusation it causes a whole new wave of damage not only to the victim but, to every person who will ever have to fend off a wrongful accusation, because it muddies the waters and creates FUD. Yes, the data suggests the percentage of false accusation…

In some small country there was recently a very interesting story. A relatively unknown actress made a post to her Facebook feed accusing relatively famous director of sexual assault without any details given (I was sexually assaulted by X, it still haunts me, #MeMoo). On Friday evening. On monday morning, one relatively strong politician with PhD in law decided to question organisations' under their influence cooper…

One thing that worries me is the psychos and attention seekers might decide they need “#metoo” attention and make false accusations or worse. The reason it worries me is because of the influence of social media on the minds of people like that and the broad and destructive outreach. You can simply claim that something happened and all of a sudden people will be giving you attention and showering you with victim love and solidarity. It’s worrying.

Re: The fake Facebook profile industry

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Post by MereInterest »

code_duck wrote: post #75
sillysaurus3 wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's shocking how easy it is to become a liar without missing a beat. If they slipped and someone caught them lying, it would become exponentially worse. Bad idea. But they should be proud of their sexuality. Whether it's BDSM or hotwifing or whatever strange kink, who cares? It's the same as shaming someone for being gay. I dislike that we have to be so Victorian about sex. It's the social climate we live in, but...…

The climate of judging people for private sexual morality is slowly changing in the United States… Same with marijuana smoking. In the 90s, affairs or past pot smoking were considered a big deal. Since then, we have elected Obama and Trump, who would not have passed moral snuff in the 80s.

I'm curious what you consider to be Obama's moral failings, to say that he would not have passed in the 80s.

Re: The fake Facebook profile industry

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Post by ilovefood »

astura wrote: post #52
scraft wrote: post #49

1. I got told many years ago, that when you get that crazily bad emails, where it claims to be from some official source, but there are spelling mistakes, the return email address is obviously wrong, grammer is terrible, etc. the sort where it is so completely obviously it is a scam - often this is done on purpose, they aren't intereseting >99% of people who can spot a scam, they are interested in the 2. Separately t…

See Why Do Nigerian Scammers Say They are From Nigeria?: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/publication/why-do-...

I seldomly read something more interesting. This is really well done, I had no idea Microsoft was looking into that field.

Re: The fake Facebook profile industry

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Post by vlehto »

Spearchucker wrote: post #228
sillysaurus3 wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's shocking how easy it is to become a liar without missing a beat. If they slipped and someone caught them lying, it would become exponentially worse. Bad idea. But they should be proud of their sexuality. Whether it's BDSM or hotwifing or whatever strange kink, who cares? It's the same as shaming someone for being gay. I dislike that we have to be so Victorian about sex. It's the social climate we live in, but...…

"I dislike that we have to be so Victorian about sex. It's the social climate we live in, but... Why?" It's religion. It teaches roughly 4 bn† people that sex is dirty, that nakedness is shameful, and that talking about it's acts and/or requisite body parts is taboo. † According to Wikipedia 2.4 billion Christians, and 1.6 billion Muslims.

If that was true, you should see significant differences between religions. And at the same time very little differences within religions.

That does not seem to hold. Looks like religions just tend to echo some sort of natural chastity. And that is hardly surprising given how recent things religions are and how old thins STDs are.

"Oh you have tingling feeling in your weewee, it's wrath of God!" and you just explained one thing away while giving more credibility to the god thing your trying to promote.

Re: The fake Facebook profile industry

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Post by dd36 »

Tech-Noir wrote: post #229
WhitneyLand wrote: post #221

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s the whole point, they don’t have to ever admit it, regardless of the publicity, short of hidden camera footage. The huge problem is, that even when it’s damning enough that 99% of people call bullshit, their denial will continue to cause great pain and make it difficult for other people to get justice in the future. In a perfect world they wouldn’t have committed the crimes in the first place, but it’s a relat…

> having an uncontested documented case is a bigger win over a denial I agree. The mistake is crediting that to CK ("at least he...") when in the wake of an article as damning as the one in the NYT, in the current climate where the story was not going to go away, as before, he had absolutely no other option than admit it. > That’s the whole point, they don’t have to ever admit it, regardless of the publicity, short o…

That article said that CK emailed and apologized to many of the women years earlier. The only ones he seemingly didn’t were the two in the hotel room which, according to other sources, agreed to let CK do it. Maybe they thought he was joking but he may not have realized they weren’t okay with it.

Re: The fake Facebook profile industry

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Post by otaviokz »

Spearchucker wrote: post #228
sillysaurus3 wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's shocking how easy it is to become a liar without missing a beat. If they slipped and someone caught them lying, it would become exponentially worse. Bad idea. But they should be proud of their sexuality. Whether it's BDSM or hotwifing or whatever strange kink, who cares? It's the same as shaming someone for being gay. I dislike that we have to be so Victorian about sex. It's the social climate we live in, but...…

"I dislike that we have to be so Victorian about sex. It's the social climate we live in, but... Why?" It's religion. It teaches roughly 4 bn† people that sex is dirty, that nakedness is shameful, and that talking about it's acts and/or requisite body parts is taboo. † According to Wikipedia 2.4 billion Christians, and 1.6 billion Muslims.

If that was true we wouldn't have politicians in UK stepping down for having once touched a woman's knee, or "scandals" about pornography found in a parliament PC.
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