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Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by Merad »

ramenmeal wrote: post #590

I'm trying it out now. Seems fast and I like the UI. I think there is a feature missing that I require... In chrome I can log into two separate accounts, my work and my personal. They run as practically two separate instances of chrome, so I can log into a separate lastpass account for each. Is this possible with firefox?

The UX isn't as nice, but you can set up multiple profiles in Firefox. There are/were some extensions to make profile switching easier but I doubt they are compatible with 57.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by joshbaptiste »

Qwertious wrote: post #725
beerbaron23 wrote: post #714

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There certainly is hardware acceleration in Firefox on Linux, more then likely it has been disabaled because of your configueration/set-up/drivers. To turn it on go into your "about:config" and toggle the entry "layers.acceleration.force-enabled" to "True" and restart. Then Firefox is as fast as Chrome or faster, simple as that. Although it would be nice if there was a dialog telling the user their setup is incorrect…

>There certainly is hardware acceleration in Firefox on Linux, more then likely it has been disabaled because of your configueration/set-up/drivers. To turn it on go into your "about:config" and toggle the entry "layers.acceleration.force-enabled" to "True" and restart. Implying that it wasn't deliberately disabled. HW acceleration on Linux isn't enabled by default, and for good reason. Until those underlying reasons…

yup.. enabled this option on Linux Mint 17.1, FireFox 51 .. crashed the nouveau driver 10 minutes later.. had to restart.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by uglycoyote »

patall wrote: post #614
anotheryou wrote: post #592

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What do you use? Some things are still a bit hacky, but it all comes together for me. I had everything packed, ready to move, but than came the ports :)

To be honest I have not switched yet, but the changes I have seen in TreeStyleTab make me question why I should stay at firefox with that because I can get the features of the new TST in Chrome as well. Also I won't work with Colorful tabs anymore. Further I think I will miss some of the decapriated features in the Zotero update. (And I will have to find appropiate replacements for Leechblock and FireGesture)

What "TST in Chrome" are you referring to? Tree-Style Tabs are one of the main things that keeps me using Firefox over Chrome. All of the Chrome Tree-style extensions that I have tried are these hacky things that use an external window.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by uglycoyote »

mistermann wrote: post #677
callahad wrote: post #589

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Tree Style Tab is available on Firefox Quantum and will be with us for a long, long time. Piro, the author, wrote an excellent article about his experience porting TST to a WebExtension: http://piro.sakura.ne.jp/latest/blosxom/mozilla/extension/tr...

I got the new Tree Style tabs installed, but I'm still seeing the standard tabs at the top, is there a way to hide those?

I asked this exact question on Stack Overflow earlier today and found that someone else had already also asked it and got an answer.

https://superuser.com/questions/1261660/firefox-quantum-ver-...

(basically, hacking some CSS rules by creating a file in your AppData directory, so that the top bar is hidden)

Incidentally, I also discovered that Tree Style Tab's settings page under Firefox has a nice little box where you can configure the CSS it uses, which was nice because I prefer it with a smaller font and less padding.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by mercurial »

branchless wrote: post #733
scholia wrote: post #699

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Though you lose multi-process operation, I think....

only on incompatible MP plugins. however I've just ran nightly and although it says vimfx will work as a legacy plugin it's not working, so the deal's off. I shall not use my mouse!

You can try vimium-ff (FF 57-compatible). There is also Tridactyl [1] currently in development.

1: https://github.com/cmcaine/tridactyl

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by mook »

mintplant wrote: post #729
mook wrote: post #524

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Huh, going through the prefs there it looks like they probably have telemetry going on in the new tab page. Where all your history goes. I miss the Mozilla that actually acted like they cared about privacy.

I'm not sure what you're referring to, can you clarify?

Sure; I'm just complaining about the _existence_ of `browser.newtabpage.activity-stream.feeds.telemetry`. I'm not comfortable having tracking so near user data.

Now that I'm not on a mobile and can actually look at the code, it looks like it's defined at [1]. I must be reading TelemetryFeed.jsm wrong, though, because that says addSession() holds on to the URL (as .page) and createPing() puts it into the ping...

[1]: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-release/file/FIREFOX...

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by Dylan16807 »

throwanem wrote: post #446
chimeracoder wrote: post #320

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> I don't know that that's fair. The discussions I've seen and participated in have revolved around equivalency, not identity. I've developed a couple of Firefox extensions. One of those was an e10s-compatible replacement for Vimperator, because Vimperator relied on XUL[0]. (Vimperator broke long before Firefox 57, because e10s broke backwards compatibility with some extensions long before Firefox 57 did). The old ex…

By "equivalency" I mean having access to equivalent APIs for specific functionality, as for example the inability to listen for window events that's breaking Vimperator and friends. (And electrovim! Have you noticed that it stops working on chrome pages that don't run scripts? Has the CSP bug been fixed? I didn't think it had been.) Maybe it's not possible to support window event listeners without breaking e10s. But…

The inability to listen to window events also screws over gesture extensions, which is my main sticking point right now.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by piyush_soni »

_lce0 wrote: post #667
piyush_soni wrote: post #479

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For me it's the Tab Groups add-on which is just irreplaceable! Firefox's "Containers" helps a bit but not that much.

The TagGroups is so part of my daily basis that I went back to the v56.0 I cannot stress enough how it helps me to switch between contexts. It's one of those things that you just did not know that you needed so much. What options do we have?

None that I know of. What helped me the most about Tab Groups was not just the tabs organization, but the face that I could create regular expressions so that a new page would automatically open in its own tab group (and everything else in one 'Default' tab group). That was a killer feature!

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by qplex »

xtraeme wrote: post #668
Yoric wrote: post #661

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> I hate to be the person to say this, but perhaps a better approach would have been to simply create a build pipeline that iterated over the addons on AMO to find the ones that use functions from the changed API and bulk send out an email about the changes to the authors (this eliminates steps 5 through 8). This would have automated steps 5 through 8, but not significantly reduced the problem. > The addon developers…

> Ah, well, sure, in that case, randomly breaking add-ons all the time would indeed have made our life easier. But everybody else's life would have been much worse, so we decided not to do that :) This is the part that I think you are going to get the most flak for. People are willing to deal with temporary setbacks if the changes can be brought in at some point. Permanently breaking things and calling that better wi…

I have to agree with this.

If you provide an API you'd better commit to it.

A lot of work is being wasted because of this.

"Do not break userspace".

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by aorth »

kelnos wrote: post #691
venatiodecorus wrote: post #591

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you are a tiny minority and a specialized browser fork is a great solution for your use case in this situation.

I think that's a great point: it's difficult, near impossible, to make any particular piece of software contain 100% of the features that 100% of people want. Especially in the case of a tiny-minority feature, a specialized version that caters to your needs sometimes makes the most sense. I just worry that people using some of these alternative browsers are opening themselves up to security issues since those code ba…

> I just worry that people using some of these alternative browsers are opening themselves up to security issues since those code bases are less well-tested for security problems

Absolutely. The web browser is one of the most notorious attack vectors on computers these days. I find it hilarious that a vocal minority of power users is protesting this _massively impressive_ Firefox release just because they lost Tree Style Tabs or some extensions for downloading videos. Switching to a legacy fork like Waterfox or Firefox 52 ESR is not an enlightened move!

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