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Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by johndoe489 »

callahad wrote: post #475
manojlds wrote: post #441

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it as just as good as chrome, why should I switch? Especially given how good Chrome Dev tools are.

Aside from the privacy / philosophy / openness / counterweight-to-monopolization-of-the-Web angles which Yoric mentioned, you might find we're actually better than Chrome in some areas. Often small things, but I find I prefer the feel of Firefox to Chrome. - If you do frontend work, our CSS grid inspector is unparalleled https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Page_Inspecto... - Firefox has built-in tracking p…

Front end dev here. The main issue I have for now is that whenever I hit CTRL Shift C to open the console, you can clearly see the thing draw itself for nearly one full second. It would be fine if it somehow cached, but if you close it and open again, same delay.

Short of being able to optimize it soon, perhaps you could try buffering and displaying it at once. It would look less clunky and flimsy.

That said I'm giving FF57 a run as my main browser, will keep using Chrome Dev Tools for now.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by nnethercote »

marbletiles wrote: post #373
cvburgess wrote: post #53

Anyone know how the new FireFox compares on battery-life? Safari crushes Chrome on this front currently, but I'm curious how FireFox compares now.

It's really pretty terrible, on Mac at least -- there's a bug about it: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1404042 which is being tracked for v58.

Note that these kinds of things are typically highly dependent on machine/browser configuration and workload. So that bug's title is overly broad, power consumption is fine for many (most?) people.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by milofeynman »

SAI_Peregrinus wrote: post #517
Merad wrote: post #480

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So, dumb question (maybe), but how do you get tree style tabs to install? I'm running FF 57 but that page says it's incompatible because I'm running FF 51. I checked and the user agent string being sent is: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:51.0) Gecko/20170125 Firefox/51.0;

Stop spoofing your user agent string, install it, then resume spoofing. It should be Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:57.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/57.0 by default for Firefox 57 on Windows 7 64-bit

I believe

  privacy.resistFingerprinting = true
spoofs user agent. Does anyone know if there is an addon or to whitelist which pages you don't want it spoofed on?

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by nnethercote »

drzaiusapelord wrote: post #418
majani wrote: post #301

Wow, no one's talking about mobile? Have they fixed the lagginess and inaccurate click detection that routinely crops up on the Android browser?

Mobile FF is built on versions far behind the desktop FF. Give it time.

It's more complicated than that. Firefox on Android uses much of the core code that desktop does. But sometimes new features do get enabled on Android a little later. One example is Stylo, the new style engine, which isn't enabled on Android yet.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by cptskippy »

djhaskin987 wrote: post #533
cptskippy wrote: post #331

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Unfortunately that doesn't disable the "Recommended by Pocket" crap on the New Tab Window. I have Firefox installed on 8 different machines and the option to remove "Recommended by Pocket" in the New Tab Preferences only appears in half of them. If you're missing the option then you can open about:config and set "browser.newtabpage.activity-stream.feeds.section.topstories" to false to get rid of it. I also blew away…

Just click on the gear on the "New tab" page, you can disable recommended by pocket.

> Just click on the gear

> I have Firefox installed on 8 different machines and the option to remove "Recommended by Pocket" in the New Tab Preferences only appears in half of them.

The gear you're referring to opens the "New Tab Preferences" screen that I was referring to.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by SAI_Peregrinus »

JetSpiegel wrote: post #512
SAI_Peregrinus wrote: post #428

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Tree Style Tabs has been updated to a WebExtension.[1] Getting a menu bar no longer needs an extension, you can just right-click in the blank areas near the address bar and select "menu bar". uMatrix can control and spoof Referer sending (I'm unfamiliar with RefControl, so this may not be exactly the same.) Self Destroying Cookies[2] is a good way to keep cookies under control, though again I'm not familiar with the…

Self-Destructing Cookies is not a WebExtension, you want Cookie AutoDelete. https://github.com/Cookie-AutoDelete/Cookie-AutoDelete/

Self Destroying Cookies is a WebExtension. There are now a couple of forks.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by staticassertion »

disconnected wrote: post #287
Tomte wrote: post #128

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Mozilla doesn't create all those extensions. And the extensions' authors had, what, two years advance warning or so? Criticize the real culpits, not Mozilla.

Look at this from a user perspective: The user diligently updates Firefox, optimistically hoping that this new version will be as awesome as the previous ones that vastly improved performance. Firefox starts and, suddenly, a bunch of things that used to work stop working. Why? Well, essentially, something that they can't hope to comprehend and that they never asked for and had no input on just ruined their browser. W…

> Users won't blame the extension developers. They will blame Firefox.

What's funny to me is that these 'users' you describe are apparently on HN - I thought this place was mostly software devs, but it's striking how many posts seem to fundamentally misunderstand the decisions made by Mozilla.

> This is the mother of all breakages

I would be that somewhere above 90% of FF users will be unaffected. Given Firefox's market share that's still a lot of people, but let's not pretend like they broke everything overnight.

> Mozilla should've tried to smooth this transition, not just simply pull the pin on the web extensions grenade and yell "Catch!".

You're implying that this was an unexpected change that Mozilla was not forthcoming about. It is the opposite. We've all known about this for months.

The value prop of no longer being tied to an extremely old system is significant and you're not giving it any of its due credit.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by Merad »

SAI_Peregrinus wrote: post #517
Merad wrote: post #480

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, dumb question (maybe), but how do you get tree style tabs to install? I'm running FF 57 but that page says it's incompatible because I'm running FF 51. I checked and the user agent string being sent is: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:51.0) Gecko/20170125 Firefox/51.0;

Stop spoofing your user agent string, install it, then resume spoofing. It should be Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:57.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/57.0 by default for Firefox 57 on Windows 7 64-bit

I have never (to my knowledge) done anything to change the user agent. I dug around in about:config and discovered that general.useragent.override somehow got set.

Edit: Something is resetting that override every time the browser starts. Dunno what, the only addons I run are uBlock and RES (and now TST).

Edit 2: It was being set in user.js. No idea how it got there...

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