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Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by scholia »

pornel wrote: post #496
manojlds wrote: post #441

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it as just as good as chrome, why should I switch? Especially given how good Chrome Dev tools are.

I personally like how it handles hundreds of tabs. No matter how many tabs I have open they remain usable size, and the compact UI theme is even more compact than Chrome. Tab containers are useful for having multiple accounts on the same site (Gmail/Github), or isolating work or most secure sites from regular browsing. The containers are more light-weight and more general than Chrome profiles (and they don't depend o…

> No matter how many tabs I have open they remain usable size

They were! I think they've shrunk, though that might be an optical illusion... And I can't see a simple way to make them bigger (simple as in: not editing the css file).

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by patall »

callahad wrote: post #475
manojlds wrote: post #441

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it as just as good as chrome, why should I switch? Especially given how good Chrome Dev tools are.

Aside from the privacy / philosophy / openness / counterweight-to-monopolization-of-the-Web angles which Yoric mentioned, you might find we're actually better than Chrome in some areas. Often small things, but I find I prefer the feel of Firefox to Chrome. - If you do frontend work, our CSS grid inspector is unparalleled https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Page_Inspecto... - Firefox has built-in tracking p…

especially TreeStyleTab is considerably weakend with the new update (like all extensions that now have to fit into less powerful webextension). From my point it is so bad (I lose 4 out of 6 regularly used add-ons) I am actively considering of leaving firefox for the better.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by patall »

mkup wrote: post #534

Firefox Quantum feels very fast, but addon support is disappointing :( + uBlock Origin - Self-Destructing Cookies - YesScript - Video DownloadHelper - Save Session

- TreeStyleTab weakened

- Zotero weakened

- mouse gesture addons

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by rexreed »

Yoric wrote: post #424
rexreed wrote: post #421

Ever since version 50.0, Firefox consistently crashes / freezes every time I try to download a file / save-as an image. I've seen this reported by others as well. This makes Firefox very much unusable for me. Perhaps someone here will pay attention to that. (fixed you try to I try to make it more about me ;)

This could be many things, but if it is only when you download/save-as, from the top of my mind, that sounds like an Anti-Virus bug. Where did you report it?

He's another person reporting [0]. It happens even on safe mode, and I'm on Mac OSX without any AV installed. It started happening only a few releases ago, so not sure what has changed in the download manager. If I go back to, say, FF 45, then it's all happy.

[0] https://superuser.com/questions/982182/firefox-freezes-when-...

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by Lev1a »

Max_Mustermann wrote: post #188
chippy wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This new release is all about attracting new users to FF from Chrome. It will hurt those of us who actively have been using and living with Firefox. In time, they say, they will bring back the various APIs for the extensions (although it's still "might" and there's no timeline yet) - so in the meantime, if you liked FF for it's customisation, we just have to suck it up. It's similar to when Ubuntu moved to Unity and…

Plenty of us have been using and living with Firefox without using one of the deprecated functions of XUL, or using them minimally. For those of us this release has been fantastic, and I'd wager we make up a considerably larger proportion of the userbase.

First off: Ich mag deinen Nutzernamen.

Second: I agree with your point that most of the userbase is most likely not running some weird addons that are hooked into the internals of FF via the old API. I actually suspect a rather significant portion of the userbase is running at most one of the handful of variants of ad- and/or scriptblocker.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by mythmon_ »

scholia wrote: post #541
pornel wrote: post #496

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I personally like how it handles hundreds of tabs. No matter how many tabs I have open they remain usable size, and the compact UI theme is even more compact than Chrome. Tab containers are useful for having multiple accounts on the same site (Gmail/Github), or isolating work or most secure sites from regular browsing. The containers are more light-weight and more general than Chrome profiles (and they don't depend o…

> No matter how many tabs I have open they remain usable size They were! I think they've shrunk, though that might be an optical illusion... And I can't see a simple way to make them bigger (simple as in: not editing the css file).

There is a pref that controls the minimum width now (browser.tabs.tabMinWidth). The default changed from 100px to 76px in Firefox 57. You should be able to tweak this to change the minimum width.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by errnoh »

IChrisI wrote: post #39
barrkel wrote: post #7

Hopefully most of the missing extensions will be developed sooner rather than later. I have 15 extensions installed, 14 of which are "Legacy". The most critical one, Tree Style Tabs, has been converted. That was the key blocker that prevented me from seriously using Chrome. But many more remain; Cookie Controller, RefControl, some kind of Classic Theme Restorer equivalent (to get a menu bar back for Bookmarks, at a m…

Tree Style Tabs was the only blocker for me, and I was amazed that it was possible to recreate under the new API. I use both Firefox and Chrome, but for very different purposes. In Chrome, I have 20-50 tabs spread across two windows. In Firefox, 400+. Tree Style Tabs is necessary for how I use Firefox. My backup plan was staying on an older version, possibly indefinitely.

You're probably better off not updating yet. I'm unable to open my old session after the 57.0 update.

1283 tabs open in the session that I'm trying to open. FF56.0 the session opens in around 20 seconds. FF57.0 I let it try to open the session for 40 minutes and still wasn't finished.

Not sure how it would perform if it would manage to open all the tabs but currently it's pretty much unusable for tab-heavy user.

When starting a new profile and starting session from scratch the browser seems really nice. I'll try nightly at some point and see if it's any better. If not I guess I'll write some tickets for them.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by jd3 »

mkup wrote: post #534

Firefox Quantum feels very fast, but addon support is disappointing :( + uBlock Origin - Self-Destructing Cookies - YesScript - Video DownloadHelper - Save Session

This is the largest disappointment of all. The power of XUL/XPCOM extensions was the only thing really keeping me invested in Mozilla in recent years.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by koot »

Namrog84 wrote: post #520
callahad wrote: post #475

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aside from the privacy / philosophy / openness / counterweight-to-monopolization-of-the-Web angles which Yoric mentioned, you might find we're actually better than Chrome in some areas. Often small things, but I find I prefer the feel of Firefox to Chrome. - If you do frontend work, our CSS grid inspector is unparalleled https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Page_Inspecto... - Firefox has built-in tracking p…

> - You can mute audio on a page clicking the little speaker icon in the tab Although I don't know if chrome has this on by default nowadays as I turned it on so long ago. But mute audio on per tab via speaker icon is available in chrome as well. in chrome://flags/ * Tab audio muting UI control If enabled, you can mute/unmute per tab via doing same thing.

Yes, it's been enable as default for a while now. But again firefox is awesome and the 57 version is simple blazing fast

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by gbrown_ »

Sylos wrote: post #519
gbrown_ wrote: post #294

Anyone know how to disable the new loading animation? I find the "pulse" at the end of the animation very distracting.

You can disable "toolkit.cosmeticAnimations.enabled" in about:config. This affects more than just the pulse, but you'll probably actually be happy about that...

Thank you!
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